Booner's Casual All Corn

[AB Normal]

Holy crap, just pulled a sample from the barrel after 2 months...this is unlike anything I've ever tasted - just a rich buttery corn flavor, vanilla, butterscotch. No harshness or bite anywhere in there. Unfortunately the angels must have thought the same.

Gonna build up some stock of this Stat. Woodshed, thanks for sharing!!!

[wtfdskin]

Started down the Booners road this morning. Following pintoshines video to a T. Only difference had to cut water back to 10 gal with 1.8 lb / gal of corn. Wasnt enough room in my keg pot for the 11.5 gal he used.

Water ph was 7.6, added 18 lb corn brought it to 6.8. 1 tsp citric acid took it to 6.2

Heated to 140 added corn, and ph adjustment. Sebstar went in at 160. Stirring constantly with my handy dandy ice cream maker motor setup. Holding now at 190 for 1.5 hrs.

Then will kill heat, cover with thermo blanket and hed to work. Hopefully when i get home from work it will be cool enough for sebamyl.

Between my all moly rum and this, I have officially gone sugar free. Thanks Woodshed for sharing this.

Sure does help that it was a warm winter and i have about 1.5 tons of corn left over from heating. The likker gods and the deer sure will be happy.

[jb-texshine]

Wow, this was easier than I'd have ever guessed. Used cornmeal and ran the grain and trub in the thumper and the cleared in the primary boiler. Ph pen is a must. So is a mud mixer and drill. Third batch is fermenting now.
Jb

[MichiganCornhusker]

You are so right, jb, mind your pH and it's easy peasy.

[Swedish Pride]

good man JD, AG all the way now

[jb-texshine]

I was really shocked at how simple it is really. Maybe I've just read too many threads and it just seemed simple. Idk,but it's a Hell of a lot cheaper for a fact.
Jb

[HDNB]

I was really shocked at how simple it is really. Maybe I've just read too many threads and it just seemed simple. Idk,but it's a Hell of a lot cheaper for a fact.
Jb

fer sure, dollar for dollar grain has a lot of sugar in it, in comparison to refined. Short of having your own cane field....

[wtfdskin]

Yup. I'm on my 6th batch filling my 4 fermenters. This recipe pushed me to the sugar free side. Easy to repeat. Every batch so far .06 ot better.

[The Baker]

HDNB said, 'fer sure, dollar for dollar grain has a lot of sugar in it, in comparison to refined. Short of having your own cane field....'

Especially since my son-in-law grows wheat, and occasionally oats and barley..... I more or less HAVE my own 'canefield'!

One day...!

Geoff

[NattyBoh]

I picked up the following enzymes from my local home brew shop...

Brewcraft Termamyl (liquid endo-alpha amylase)
Brewcraft Amg ((liquid exo- alpha amylase, beta-amylase)

Recommended temps on bottle say 152F for first one and 122F for the second.

Will these work and should I use the recommended temps on bottles or those in the recipe (I imagine those on the bottle)?

[der wo]

Yes. Use it like it's written on the bottle. At least the Termamyl is not identical with the first enzyme here in this recipe. It needs not the same temp.

[NattyBoh]

Thank you. Looking forward to running this through my new and improved 3 plate flute.

[Hilltop]

I have a question on the backset. The backset being used to lower the PH, is it low wines backset or spirit run backset. I ask, as I notice a difference in the pH of each. From my reading the backset amount of around 1 pint per 5 gallons of mash seems small enough not to impart on the taste, but being I have no all grain corn backset I will be using my corn sugar head sour mash backset. May just be apples and oranges but thought I might ask on backset type.

Waiting on enzymes. I did not buy cracked corn for this experiment, I bought whole kernel triple cleaned corn and ground up one pound at a time in my Oster 6 cup blender. It absolutely pulverized the corn. Smells so good I'm considering making cornmeal with it. Fast too.

My water PH is 6.8 for our artesian spring water. Is anyone having success with the oven cook method?

[Hilltop]

I usually use Southern feeds cracked corn and it's relatively free of vermin, the first thing I notice is whole corn " triple clean" is evidently not triple cleaned of vermin as I just spent twenty minutes killing bugs!

I have two experiments going, one just steeping the corn in boiled water and one with cooked corn. Two 8 gallon batches. I used my blender to pulverise 3 cups " 1 lb" at a time.

[Hilltop]

Now if I can just figure out this new hydrometer toy. Waiting on my last batch tohit 140 to lower pH and toss liquid Gluco

[Hilltop]

Everything is bubbling away happily today thanks Booner.

[heartcut]

If you don't like weevils this gives great taste.
Dump a 50# bag of cracked feed corn in a 20 gal pot and pour 15 gal boiling water on it.
I use my boiler sitting on a table over the pot. This puts you at 180degF. Follow Booner's
recipe besides that. Excellent flavor and no bug food leftovers.
Use 18mL enzyme each.

[Still Life]

Whipped up my first proper Booner's this weekend.
Very aggressive ferment!

Corn is only $8 for 56-lbs. here, so it's easy on the wallet, too.
At this rate of ferment, it'll probably be ready this weekend for running.

Liking this recipe and low cost after doing so many other more expensive grains.

[Oldvine Zin]

Liking this recipe and low cost after doing so many other more expensive grains.

+1 this recipe was the one I picked for my first ag and is my fallback recipe for some of that great corn goodness. _Thanks Woodshed for this recipe!

Doing side by side tastings of this and HBB, the all corn lacks some of the depth that the HBB has but it also has a less intensive grain bill. Both recipes make a good drop

OVZ
edited to say: this was my 1000th post here - maybe some day I'll earn the rank of distiller

[barreldawg]

Liking this recipe and low cost after doing so many other more expensive grains.

+1 this recipe was the one I picked for my first ag and is my fallback recipe for some of that great corn goodness. _Thanks Woodshed for this recipe!

Your welcome.

[Oldvine Zin]

Liking this recipe and low cost after doing so many other more expensive grains.

+1 this recipe was the one I picked for my first ag and is my fallback recipe for some of that great corn goodness. _Thanks Woodshed for this recipe!

Your welcome.

OVZ

[Still Life]

Liking this recipe and low cost after doing so many other more expensive grains.

+1 this recipe was the one I picked for my first ag and is my fallback recipe for some of that great corn goodness. _Thanks Woodshed for this recipe!

Your welcome.

well ... i'll be

[ShineonCrazyDiamond]

Well, I have 80 gallons of Booners laid down. Finally came outta my malt shell and poked my head up to see what the enzymeheads were up to . 40 gallons just finished, will squeeze tonight. The other was pitched 24 hours ago, and is ripping along. Filling a 5 gallon barrel with it, and have never even tried it! I trust the source and recipe. Figured it will do just fine in my Gibbs barrel that I emptied a month ago that held Honey Bear for its virgin run. I think the second use is more suited to the delicate all corn flavor I'm expecting from Booners. Next summer will be a treat! First gotta strip, lol...

Thanks!

[barreldawg]

Well, I have 80 gallons of Booners laid down. Finally came outta my malt shell and poked my head up to see what the enzymeheads were up to . 40 gallons just finished, will squeeze tonight. The other was pitched 24 hours ago, and is ripping along. Filling a 5 gallon barrel with it, and have never even tried it! I trust the source and recipe. Figured it will do just fine in my Gibbs barrel that I emptied a month ago that held Honey Bear for its virgin run. I think the second use is more suited to the delicate all corn flavor I'm expecting from Booners. Next summer will be a treat! First gotta strip, lol...

Thanks!

[flyweed]

ok....so what's the general concensus here......is cracked corn best, or finer crushed corn...or corn meal? I am going to do this all corn for the first time, and just curious what to use for the corn...I have a fermenter that is 14 gallons, so would like to plan a 12-13 gallon mash. how much corn to water, for that? Should I figure 2 lbs of corn per gallon of water??

Thanks

[jb-texshine]

ok....so what's the general concensus here......is cracked corn best, or finer crushed corn...or corn meal? I am going to do this all corn for the first time, and just curious what to use for the corn...I have a fermenter that is 14 gallons, so would like to plan a 12-13 gallon mash. how much corn to water, for that? Should I figure 2 lbs of corn per gallon of water??
Thanks

Kinda depends on how you plan on getting the grain out. If you have a mop wringer and paint strainer bag go with cornmeal. It'll get you to a higher og. than cracked... imo.

[flyweed]

So if I used just cracked or crushed, can I just rack the wash off the corn after it ferments and settles out? I do have a number of fine mesh paint strainer bags I use for pressing cider.

[Still Life]

So if I used just cracked or crushed, can I just rack the wash off the corn after it ferments and settles out? I do have a number of fine mesh paint strainer bags I use for pressing cider.

I rack the liquid off the thick corn bed through a screen filter into my 20-gallon container, and run the corn through a mesh in a mop wringer/bucket like jb said.
Doesn't matter if I've used cracked or meal.
Get a plastic mop wringer/bucket if you don't have one. They're efficient and make life a lot easier. I think my "deluxe" one cost $40 US.

[moosemilk]

So if I used just cracked or crushed, can I just rack the wash off the corn after it ferments and settles out? I do have a number of fine mesh paint strainer bags I use for pressing cider.

Cracked corn will work ok. Look up Big R's step mashing method (pretty sure it was him, been awhile since i visited that thread and do it by memory). Works well for enzymes or malt. I do mill my corn down myself, finer than cracked but coarser than meal. 1.8 - 2lbs per gallon is a good starting area for this recipe. Big key in this is your pH for effectiveness of enzymes.

For straining, I use a nylon mesh bag and one of those industrial mop bucket and ringers. Works very well.

[moosemilk]

Liking this recipe and low cost after doing so many other more expensive grains.

+1 this recipe was the one I picked for my first ag and is my fallback recipe for some of that great corn goodness. _Thanks Woodshed for this recipe!

Your welcome.

well ... i'll be

Ditto . . .