6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Fittings, parrots, packing, tooling and so on.

Moderator: Site Moderator

Post Reply
Reverend Newer
Swill Maker
Posts: 171
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:41 pm
Location: Q Clearance Patriot

6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by Reverend Newer »

I was wondering if there are tank-weld stainless ferrules available that have a contour to match the curve on the side of a 55 gallon barrel?

If not, then are folks grinding this curve into the ferrule themselves or is it not an issue when soldering on a ferrule as wide as 6 inches?


Planned to solder the ferrule on first, then cut out the center with a hole saw. Looked on the HD search and didn't find much info.
Just trying to plan things out ahead of time and whether I will need a bench grinder because I'm not sure I'd be steady enough with an angle grinder on a ferrule. :problem:


thanks!
spiritually taxed circa 1791
User avatar
Wild Bill
Bootlegger
Posts: 116
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:40 am

Re: 6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by Wild Bill »

I have not seen a pre fitted tc fitting that large but they may exist. I have coped pipe for different projects and is not hard. Use sharpie to draw amount to take off and grind very carefully and check for fit frequently. Also use only a grinding wheel that is new or has only been used on ss as you will cross contaminate your stainless and develop rust spots. A bench grinder is better but can be done with hand held side grinder and a vice. GL
Living life one drop at a time

I ain’t here for a long time, I am here for a good time

Don’t worry, have a bourbon!
Reverend Newer
Swill Maker
Posts: 171
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:41 pm
Location: Q Clearance Patriot

Re: 6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by Reverend Newer »

Perfect, thank you much!
spiritually taxed circa 1791
zapata
Distiller
Posts: 1664
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:06 pm

Re: 6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by zapata »

brewhardware.com sells TC ferrules with a wide base and contour cut intended to be surface soldered onto a pot. They have them in 1.5" and 2". I've use the 2" and it's perfect for the side of a keg. I imagine it would work fine on a barrel, the clamp you use to hold it in place for soldering should be able to deform the barrel to fit the fitting.

They also have a dimple / pull through TC ferrule in 1.5" which I haven't used but looks pretty darn cool.

These are custom jobs for niche markets though, I don't know of anyone else making anything similar, much less in 6". But having taken a look at the pull through / dimple TC ferrule, that shouldn't be too hard to make in any size. The only custom piece would be a short conical flare piece, and I bet you could get that custom made, maybe even from brewhardware. Maybe you reach a size where a simple bolt doesn't generate enough force, I doubt 6" would be problematic though, if it is you can press it through in some other way, a hydraulic punch tool would do it for sure.
User avatar
cede
Swill Maker
Posts: 363
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:39 am
Location: Canada

Re: 6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by cede »

You're surely have to grind it yourself.
But cutting the curve of a 55G barrel into a ferrule could be tricky.
I'd say cut a round into the barrel, fit the ferrule inside and weld it.
After that you'll decide if you want to grind the ferrule from the inside.
User avatar
pfshine
Master of Distillation
Posts: 3106
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:59 pm
Location: Vegas

Re: 6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by pfshine »

cede wrote:You're surely have to grind it yourself.
But cutting the curve of a 55G barrel into a ferrule could be tricky.
I'd say cut a round into the barrel, fit the ferrule inside and weld it.
After that you'll decide if you want to grind the ferrule from the inside.
That would be the fastest least headache inducing way to go. It should be ok if you get the long style, you should only need to cope it out about 1/4".
Life is a journey you take alone. Make sure you do what you what makes you happy
User avatar
res
Novice
Posts: 59
Joined: Mon May 27, 2013 2:59 am
Location: Melbourne

Re: 6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by res »

zapata wrote:brewhardware.com sells TC ferrules with a wide base and contour cut intended to be surface soldered onto a pot. They have them in 1.5" and 2". I've use the 2" and it's perfect for the side of a keg. I imagine it would work fine on a barrel, the clamp you use to hold it in place for soldering should be able to deform the barrel to fit the fitting.

They also have a dimple / pull through TC ferrule in 1.5" which I haven't used but looks pretty darn cool.

These are custom jobs for niche markets though, I don't know of anyone else making anything similar, much less in 6". But having taken a look at the pull through / dimple TC ferrule, that shouldn't be too hard to make in any size. The only custom piece would be a short conical flare piece, and I bet you could get that custom made, maybe even from brewhardware. Maybe you reach a size where a simple bolt doesn't generate enough force, I doubt 6" would be problematic though, if it is you can press it through in some other way, a hydraulic punch tool would do it for sure.
I just ordered a couple of the 2 inch solder on TC fittings, great HBS that one.
Just wished they were based in Australia would have saved some serious shipping fees :problem:
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
Winston Churchill
User avatar
raketemensch
Distiller
Posts: 2001
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:10 pm
Location: Tralfamadore

Re: 6" Ferrule to Side of Barrel?

Post by raketemensch »

Anyone else having flashbacks from the whole “turn your kegs on their sides” debate?
The Baker
Master of Distillation
Posts: 4674
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:48 am
Location: Northern Victoria, Australia

Re: 6

Post by The Baker »

raketemensch wrote:Anyone else having flashbacks from the whole “turn your kegs on their sides” debate?
Probably just as good as the upright position.
Better for gas than electric (not as much height above the element).
Useful if you need room for a high riser etc. .

Geoff
The Baker
Post Reply