running shine twice question

[dhooten10]

Ive been running my still for about a year now, ive heard of running the shine twice to get higher proof..... is this done by putting the first run back in the pot by itself or mixing it back in with mash?

[jholmz]

it can be done eigther way mixing it with your next wash is considered a one and a half run. running your product through on its own is a double distill, make sure you dilute the product down to under 40% with water before you rerun it i like to dilute mine down to 30%.

[googe]

+1 on what jholmz, plus depends what your making, neutral, you what your low wines down and redistill, flavoured stuff you can use wash.

[dakotasnake]

i usually take a nice middle cut from the 1st run, then save the rest for an all feights run when i have enuff. several ways to do it.

[stillin]

I do it the same way as Dakota snake. Keep a little from the middle to quench my thirst until I get up enough low wines for a spirit run. Only time I single run is if I'm making brandy and thats cause I want max flavor.

[dhooten10]

Thanks for the info !!!
As of right now im just running a corn & sugar mash
I run it down to 90 proof. Whatever is left in the pot Ive been putting back in the barrel while its still hot and mixing my sugar.
I also add the head back into the next mash.

Stillin,
Will mine have less of a corn flavor if I run it twice ?

[dakotasnake]

lets see if i got it rite, you run on the 1st run to 90 proof? most run down to 20 - 30 proof or a little more. that goes into your feints jars for later distilling. if your stopping at 90 your leaving alot of alc. in there. not to mention adding that much alc to your next fermintation can screw up your yeast.

[dhooten10]

That is correct. I had read about running it down and saving it back untill there is enough to run again. My only concern with that was how it would taste?.?
So far no bad effect on the yeast or fermentation.
The mix is about 60/40. (Uncooked wash/fresh water)

[stillin]

Yes you will lose some flavor the second time around

[Doogie]

you can counter that somewhat on certain types of production - for rum, I add about a pint of molassas ... and for UJSSM, I toss in a big bag of frozen corn into the low wines ...

[dhooten10]

Thanks for the input ! Ill be saving up fients from now on

[Notanewb]

Input anyone? So I’m out to make some good stuff. I just ran the dirtiest wash lol. But never the less. I pulled three kick ass jars and a few great feints. Lost one jar cause I started pulling a bit to early didn’t wanna chance it so I tossed the jar. I have 15 gallons of wash clearing anyways. This was just an experiment.
So my question is. Those three jars averaged out at 135 proof. And to be honest it’s to strong but a great neutral spirit. How should I flavour it? In the past I watered it and marinated in apple pie filling with cinamon. Any suggestions I’m open. ?

[still_stirrin]

...So my question is. Those three jars averaged out at 135 proof. And to be honest it’s to strong but a great neutral spirit. How should I flavour it? In the past I watered it and marinated in apple pie filling with cinamon. Any suggestions I’m open. ?

At 135 proof it's just about perfect to put some toasted and charred oak chunks into. It'll make a tasty whiskey, so go for it.
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