Grain mill

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Looks like a corona mill and a cordless drill. Definitely will work and save your arm a bit of trouble, though you might want to go corded 1/2" as your batteries won't thank you.

I built mine into a home Depot bucket and used a 5 gallon plastic water jug as a funnel. Works fine. Plenty of dust.
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you will need their big corded 450RPM drill
anything else will over heat, I have the same setup.
But in a 2 bucket setup, no dust it's great, about 4 mins. 24lbs is done
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It is corded
600 rpm with a variable trigger
And its red
Matches lol
Harbor freight
Got the 1 year extended warranty
Thing came with extra brushes
Just got done putting on bolt with stop nut
Going to run 20 gal of MASH lol tonight
My first all grain without any sugar
I hope I'm going down the right road
A lot more involved this path is
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I want me a nice copper pot type head
I will have one eventually
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I would love to discuss the running of an all grain through a reflux column
I am intrigued
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mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:02 pm I would love to discuss the running of an all grain through a reflux column
Why would you want to run an AG through a reflux column..

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Read about some folks doing it
I know its crazy
But man two runs is a long sitting
Im a weekend warrior
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mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:32 pm Read about some folks doing it
I know its crazy
But man two runs is a long sitting
Im a weekend warrior
Maybe you should look at entertaining yourself with something else..

As you have no idea what the hobby's about..

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i run ag through 2 plates, strip+ spirit as normal procedure...why wouldn't you? first pass ain't clean enough for this cowboy. could stack more plates i guess but then you don't get a good cuts selection to work from.

back on topic tho...anybody got a good recommendation for a 3 roller mill that won't break the bank? i'd like a through put 4kg/minute my 2 roller does does 2 kg a minute with rye so about 12 minutes for a bag of rye, but i gotta open up for two row, and then tighten up and run a second pass, so it's a half hour for for a bag of barley....i'd love for that to be cut in half.
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Topic was my first grain mill
Straight up thread jack lol
I don't care
Hey you think this this would grind barley suitable
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Does it even have a flavor after all that
Just asking
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mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:59 pm Does it even have a flavor after all that
Just asking
tons. i use very little reflux on both passes, just enough to hold back the really heavy bitter tail oils. My collection averages 38% first pass and 68 or 78 on second pass depending on whether i'm making barley or rye.
i use 2 plates mostly because i don't have enough headroom to get a tall enough pot head on it to lighten up the tails the way i like.

I've run 'er bareback, with no plates but it's smear city all the way through.
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mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:57 pm Topic was my first grain mill
Straight up thread jack lol
I don't care
Hey you think this this would grind barley suitable
was gonna change my handle to hijack but tater wouldn't go for it. :wink:

i've heard they do a great job on barley. it's softer and fluffier than corn or rye, the burr should eat it up like nothing. just a slower thru-put than a roller. if you are doing a few Kg at a time, no sweat.
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Roller mills are “the bomb” for husked cereal grains like barley malt and raw (or malted) oats. The roller mills crush the kernels rather than grind them.

But burr mills, like the Corona mill, indeed grind the seed berries and are therefore much more effective with husk-less grains like corn and wheat. By adjusting the burr gap, you can adjust the size of the meal, from large pieces to a powder. Of course, fine grinds (but not to flour) are easier to mash because the endosperm is much easier to hydrate.

Granted, most hobbiests don’t have the financial resources for both types of mills and simply choose one. And the 2-roller and 3-roller mills typically are more expensive than the Corona-style burr mills because of the manufacturing requirements to produce them. Monster Mills makes 2-roller and 3-roller mills, but other manufacturers are highly respected too.

But the Corona mills are a great “entry level” mill to grind most brewing grains. It’ll work with barley malt, wheat malt, rye malt and even corn (if passed through a couple of times). They can be adjusted with enough accuracy to mill to acceptable meal density.

MrWilson, with your drill powered Corona mill, you may have to regulate the grain feed down so the drill motor will keep the mill turning....just a tidbit of advice.

If you want forearms like Popeye, then try cranking it by hand....for unmalted corn! Pretty soon you’ll appreciate prime mover powered mills.

Have fun and good luck.
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mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:59 pm want me a nice copper pot type head
I will have one eventually
In the mean time add some copper scraps and/or copper scrubbies to the boiler and in the column itself. Hell, you can even put a scrubby or two in a collection jar you collect in and when at the level you want dump to another jar. The still doesn't have to be made of copper to make use of it.

You can even get some thin copper sheeting and make a sleeve for inside the column and/or the boiler. This is an easy way to add copper to many of the Chinese SS stills. I'm sort of "old school" and prefer a copper worm over other condensers so I get a lot of copper that way as well. A worm is harder to get correct but really isn't that hard to make one properly. They sure are easy to keep cool if sitting in a big container/barrel as well as being able to handle as much heat as you can throw at the boiler if sized properly and get your spirit out at room temp. Also is a great way to remove a lot of weight from the column itself especially if using a thin SS boiler that may have trouble with a heavy column attached. Downside to using a worm is the space it takes up!
mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:02 pm I would love to discuss the running of an all grain through a reflux column
I am intrigued
Start a new thread. I'll join it and discuss this use. A lot of commercial stills do exactly this and make great spirits.
StillerBoy wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:24 pm Why would you want to run an AG through a reflux column..
Nothing wrong with doing this but you don't run the reflux still like you are making vodka or neatral. You can compress early heads then take off late heads and hearts with minimal reflux to control your ABV. Once you get the hang of it, you can run it like you have a thumper or two or a few plates. It's not better or worse, just different. With a big boiler (lot of alcohol present), you can do one and done and produce spirits every bit as good or better than a strip/spirit run on a pot still if that's your thing. I like CM style stills for this type of run while LM or VM more for pure neutrals or vodkas. But this is just personal and many types of reflux stills can be used to make rums, whiskeys and other flavored spirits if ran correctly for those spirits.

With that said I still prefer a simple pot (maybe with thumper) for bourbons and rums doing a strip/spirit run as I've got my process down far better for this type of still since I run them this way a lot and can do cuts by proof or temp since I know the runs so well.
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Damn yall
Ill read later
But yeah here I sit
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Waiting on the heat up
Hearing action
Here we go
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Smells fucking sour
In a pleasant way
Bout 60. 40 cracked corn. Sweet feed
No sugar
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The smell
Already I know
This is the way to go
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mrwilson, what size boiler you running?
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16 gallon
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My mash game needs work
I already know
I need a 1.06. 1.07 to be happy
This was 1.04
Fermed to 1.00
Ain't going to get much
But I hope its good
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cayars wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:52 pm
mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:59 pm want me a nice copper pot type head
I will have one eventually
In the mean time add some copper scraps and/or copper scrubbies to the boiler and in the column itself. Hell, you can even put a scrubby or two in a collection jar you collect in and when at the level you want dump to another jar. The still doesn't have to be made of copper to make use of it.

You can even get some thin copper sheeting and make a sleeve for inside the column and/or the boiler. This is an easy way to add copper to many of the Chinese SS stills. I'm sort of "old school" and prefer a copper worm over other condensers so I get a lot of copper that way as well. A worm is harder to get correct but really isn't that hard to make one properly. They sure are easy to keep cool if sitting in a big container/barrel as well as being able to handle as much heat as you can throw at the boiler if sized properly and get your spirit out at room temp. Also is a great way to remove a lot of weight from the column itself especially if using a thin SS boiler that may have trouble with a heavy column attached. Downside to using a worm is the space it takes up!
mrwilson wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:02 pm I would love to discuss the running of an all grain through a reflux column
I am intrigued
Start a new thread. I'll join it and discuss this use. A lot of commercial stills do exactly this and make great spirits.
StillerBoy wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:24 pm Why would you want to run an AG through a reflux column..
Nothing wrong with doing this but you don't run the reflux still like you are making vodka or neatral. You can compress early heads then take off late heads and hearts with minimal reflux to control your ABV. Once you get the hang of it, you can run it like you have a thumper or two or a few plates. It's not better or worse, just different. With a big boiler (lot of alcohol present), you can do one and done and produce spirits every bit as good or better than a strip/spirit run on a pot still if that's your thing. I like CM style stills for this type of run while LM or VM more for pure neutrals or vodkas. But this is just personal and many types of reflux stills can be used to make rums, whiskeys and other flavored spirits if ran correctly for those spirits.

With that said I still prefer a simple pot (maybe with thumper) for bourbons and rums doing a strip/spirit run as I've got my process down far better for this type of still since I run them this way a lot and can do cuts by proof or temp since I know the runs so well.
And this
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Man that sugar is some some soulless lazy b's
This is where its at
The smell man
The Damn smell
She's thumping
I feel a drip coming on
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Got the puffing I hear about last run
Kinda weird
Dial down on the water?
In in bcc
Tap water now is fucking cold lol
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In western NC
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