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I was wondering with all the efforts around trying to legalize, has anyone considered hitting up the sugar industry for help? I know that they were wanting to increase their market share enough to use morally corrupt practices like bribing the scientific community for the last half a century so if someone pointed out to them how much sugar gets used to distill they might jump behind this bandwagon.
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That’s about as likely....
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In agreement with " that's about as likely as pie in the sky "

Furthermore, they are already repeaing the benifits of the sales on sugar..

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Isn't it also more economical to make neutral from corn than sugar?

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Farmers paying a premium for a lesser quality blackstrap.
Lesser quality in that technology now allows for even more sucrose extraction.
It ain't yer granddad's blackstrap no more.

Farmers paying more for a lesser product than distillers are willing to pay for a better product.
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From the look of my shed, we should enlist the glass jug industry...
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Hambone wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:11 pm From the look of my shed, we should enlist the glass jug industry...
Why not the beer keg industry :wink:
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jonnys_spirit wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:22 pm Isn't it also more economical to make neutral from corn than sugar?

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As far as bulk production (fuel) switchgrass is a popular choice. Hmmmm....switchgrass taste?
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Hambone wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:42 pm
jonnys_spirit wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:22 pm Isn't it also more economical to make neutral from corn than sugar?

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As far as bulk production (fuel) switchgrass is a popular choice. Hmmmm....switchgrass taste?
*If* you had an efficient catalyst to hydrolyze cellulose into fermentable sugars... You'd be a biofuels billionaire.

Currently more energy in than out.
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Angel yeast no mash.
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Expat wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:15 pm
Hambone wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:42 pm
jonnys_spirit wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:22 pm Isn't it also more economical to make neutral from corn than sugar?

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As far as bulk production (fuel) switchgrass is a popular choice. Hmmmm....switchgrass taste?
*If* you had an efficient catalyst to hydrolyze cellulose into fermentable sugars... You'd be a biofuels billionaire.

Currently more energy in than out.
Actually switchgrass provides about 5x energy out as opposed to energy to produce, while corn is about energy neutral.
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I’m talking about hoe-made sippin likker not industrial fuel production. 2lbs of corn in a gallon of water converts to about 1.060 where about 1.4lbs of sugar get you to about 1.060. A 50# sack of feed corn around here is about $7 where 50# of sugar is somewhere around $80. For the likker produced it’s pretty clear to me.

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I doubt switchgrass makes a very good whiskey either. :crazy:
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jonnys_spirit wrote:I’m talking about hoe-made sippin likker not industrial fuel production. 2lbs of corn in a gallon of water converts to about 1.060 where about 1.4lbs of sugar get you to about 1.060. A 50# sack of feed corn around here is about $7 where 50# of sugar is somewhere around $80. For the likker produced it’s pretty clear to me.

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Wow Johnny, that's a crazy sugar price. I just bought four 25 lb bags of sugar at Walmart in the nothwest USA. $8.88 USD for 25 lbs.
But i prefer the taste of corn. The sugar will be for a sugar head on spent grain.
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Hi Tummy, I just looked on amazon for that price so it may not be the best price in town. A quick google reveals that 25# generic sugar is about $11 @ the Kroger down the street here in Nashville. I agree that the corn likker is better but sugar is certainly less fuss and a sugar head on spent grain helps optimize the effort involved which is hard to ignore.

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Walmart is a much better price for sugar.
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tiramisu wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:35 pm Walmart is a much better price for sugar.
Sounds like you're assuming Johnny is in the US.
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Walmart is everywhere
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tiramisu wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:43 pm Walmart is everywhere
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I'm sure I'm alone on this, but I enjoy being an outlaw.

I've always been that way.
I'm still that way.
I'll always be that way.

I consume and share what I make. Never barter. Never sell. Just make. drink. share.

I like it this way.

And it don't even make sense to be a legger' considering the proliferation and cheapness of decent commercial spirits. I'm going to continue appreciating my hobby
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