My first.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:23 pm

I did a bit of searching but haven't found anything yet.
Has anyone made sour mash using enzyme all grain corn?

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:45 pm

You'll actually get a little better results. Use backset to lower your pH and it'll sour right up, so save a gallon or so of your backset from the stripping run of what you're fermenting now.
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:48 pm

Deplorable wrote:You'll actually get a little better results. Use backset to lower your pH and it'll sour right up, so save a gallon or so of your backset from the stripping run of what you're fermenting now.
I will do that.

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:37 pm

Zeotropic wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:48 pm
Deplorable wrote:You'll actually get a little better results. Use backset to lower your pH and it'll sour right up, so save a gallon or so of your backset from the stripping run of what you're fermenting now.
I will do that.
Read up on the optimum pH level for your enzymes to work, and lower your waters ph to that before you boil it and add it to the corn.
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:58 pm

That mash has been bubbling like it is at a rolling boil. It is amazing.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:04 pm

I just checked the SG and it was 0.98 @ 70°f so I think the continued bubbling is just off-gassing. I think I'm going to throw it out on the back porch to let it settle everything out so I can run it.
I didn't check the starting SG so I don't know how well I did I also didn't do a starch test because I didn't have iodine or a hydrometer.
That recipe seems to be phenomenal for fermentation it'll be interesting to see if I like the flavor.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:28 pm

I got this bourbon on the recommendation of the guy at the liquor store and I'm not really a big fan. I drink bushmills red label straight at room temperature no ice but this one so far the way I like it best is in hot chocolate. It is really oakey and sorta sour.

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm

Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:28 pm
I got this bourbon on the recommendation of the guy at the liquor store and I'm not really a big fan. I drink bushmills red label straight at room temperature no ice but this one so far the way I like it best is in hot chocolate. It is really oakey and sorta sour.


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Ive not had that one yet, but the Weller's I have had were just okay, not great, or anything I'd buy if I could find them.
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Re: My first.

Post by Justinthunder » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:30 pm

Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:28 pm
I got this bourbon on the recommendation of the guy at the liquor store and I'm not really a big fan. I drink bushmills red label straight at room temperature no ice but this one so far the way I like it best is in hot chocolate. It is really oakey and sorta sour.


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I’m sure there are waaaaay better bourbons but my go to is always my friend Jim Beam

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:56 pm


Deplorable wrote:
Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:28 pm
I got this bourbon on the recommendation of the guy at the liquor store and I'm not really a big fan. I drink bushmills red label straight at room temperature no ice but this one so far the way I like it best is in hot chocolate. It is really oakey and sorta sour.


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Ive not had that one yet, but the Weller's I have had were just okay, not great, or anything I'd buy if I could find them.
What is a good bourbon to try?

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:56 pm

Justinthunder wrote:
Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:28 pm
I got this bourbon on the recommendation of the guy at the liquor store and I'm not really a big fan. I drink bushmills red label straight at room temperature no ice but this one so far the way I like it best is in hot chocolate. It is really oakey and sorta sour.


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I’m sure there are waaaaay better bourbons but my go to is always my friend Jim Beam
I will try that at some point.

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:17 pm

Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:56 pm
Deplorable wrote:
Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:28 pm
I got this bourbon on the recommendation of the guy at the liquor store and I'm not really a big fan. I drink bushmills red label straight at room temperature no ice but this one so far the way I like it best is in hot chocolate. It is really oakey and sorta sour.


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Ive not had that one yet, but the Weller's I have had were just okay, not great, or anything I'd buy if I could find them.
What is a good bourbon to try?
Buffalo Trace is a good middle shelf bourbon, as is Knob Creek. At least to me and until I have some home brew of my own to sip on.
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:46 pm

Deplorable wrote:
Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:56 pm
Deplorable wrote:
Zeotropic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:28 pm
I got this bourbon on the recommendation of the guy at the liquor store and I'm not really a big fan. I drink bushmills red label straight at room temperature no ice but this one so far the way I like it best is in hot chocolate. It is really oakey and sorta sour.


IMG_20210101_202325984.jpg
Ive not had that one yet, but the Weller's I have had were just okay, not great, or anything I'd buy if I could find them.
What is a good bourbon to try?
Buffalo Trace is a good middle shelf bourbon, as is Knob Creek. At least to me and until I have some home brew of my own to sip on.
Thanks.

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Re: My first.

Post by SassyFrass » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:55 am

I have a friend who swears by Ballentine's, and another that drinks Benchmark but I thought both were a little headsy. I wasnt impressed by either.
With good cuts you'll make much better than you can buy. Just my $.02
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:04 am

SassyFrass wrote:I have a friend who swears by Ballentine's, and another that drinks Benchmark but I thought both were a little headsy. I wasnt impressed by either.
With good cuts you'll make much better than you can buy. Just my $.02
SF
True. It is just nice to know what flavors the commercial ones have so i can start to get an idea of what i might make. I haven't tried much commercial liquor.

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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:19 am

My first wash of the year is the all bran gonna ferment with bakers yeast and keep doin them till I have a couple more gallon and switch to grain just like this time last year as I just found a Gallon of all bran from llast january
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:54 am

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My first yeast started and first wash put up
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Re: My first.

Post by SassyFrass » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:05 am

Z, believe it or not, I do understand. Try the bourbon, whiskey, irish, and scotch and others. Savor and remember those tastes and the feeling you get from them. Then compare it to what you make, and how yours tastes after making good cuts and oaking for a couple years.i think you'll be pleasantly suprised.
D, looks like you got a good start on the year and a very workable plan for 2021.
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:00 am

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Second yeast start of the year
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:21 am

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Cleaning strip glassware to use for this year's spirits I've got five gallon worth of old store bought bottles to use for strips
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:04 pm

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Char oaked some heavy peat malt hearts from last week will age for 12 years so hope this is around in 2033
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:43 pm

@Durhommer you sure have a head start on me.
I am not very fast at this.
I am hoping to figure out how to make something I like soon because $35 a bottle gets expensive when I have a still at home.
This is my third ferment.
I am going to rack it of onto some five gallon buckets in the next few days and hopefully i will get some time to strip it soon.[IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202101 ... 460381.jpg[/IMG]

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:46 pm

SassyFrass wrote:Z, believe it or not, I do understand. Try the bourbon, whiskey, irish, and scotch and others. Savor and remember those tastes and the feeling you get from them. Then compare it to what you make, and how yours tastes after making good cuts and oaking for a couple years.i think you'll be pleasantly suprised.
D, looks like you got a good start on the year and a very workable plan for 2021.
That is the plan. I am going to order some oak soon and in a year or so I will put together my first badmo barrel and start long term aging.

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:01 pm

If You're already getting comfortable with corn, don't wait to get going on making a bourbon. Jump in! I started working on a barrel of malt whiskey within 2 months of getting my still. The more you make now, the more you have later. In 6 months I put up over 7.5 gallons at 62-64% and only drank about 3 quarts at 45%. Even if you dont have oak now, just leave it white in a jug until you do.
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:15 pm

Deplorable wrote:If You're already getting comfortable with corn, don't wait to get going on making a bourbon. Jump in! I started working on a barrel of malt whiskey within 2 months of getting my still. The more you make now, the more you have later. In 6 months I put up over 7.5 gallons at 62-64% and only drank about 3 quarts at 45%. Even if you dont have oak now, just leave it white in a jug until you do.
Its the money thing for me. :-(

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Re: My first.

Post by Justinthunder » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:30 pm

Durhommer wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:04 pm
20210102_140148.jpgChar oaked some heavy peat malt hearts from last week will age for 12 years so hope this is around in 2033
Bro you have the patience of a saint to leave it for 12 years, I can’t wait to drink mine lol

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:32 pm

Justinthunder wrote:
Durhommer wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:04 pm
20210102_140148.jpgChar oaked some heavy peat malt hearts from last week will age for 12 years so hope this is around in 2033
Bro you have the patience of a saint to leave it for 12 years, I can’t wait to drink mine lol
I was thinking the same thing. Image

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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:24 am

Justinthunder wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:30 pm
Durhommer wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:04 pm
20210102_140148.jpgChar oaked some heavy peat malt hearts from last week will age for 12 years so hope this is around in 2033
Bro you have the patience of a saint to leave it for 12 years, I can’t wait to drink mine lol
I have more likker to drink than I know what to do with
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:56 am

My fermenting vessels are bubbling away and one smells very fruity out the airlock.no I dont open mine for a week to check fg. I was tole keep yer damn hands out of it it will do better on its own
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Re: My first.

Post by v-child » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:19 am

Durhommer wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:56 am
My fermenting vessels are bubbling away and one smells very fruity out the airlock.no I dont open mine for a week to check fg. I was tole keep yer damn hands out of it it will do better on its own
I'll check my ph after a week or if it slows down. Adjustment will usually get it rolling hard again. Tinkering with it constantly will give you an infection.

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