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brown sugar Rum (surprisingly good)

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after a bad experience with light brown sugar (bad as in not worth my time and effort) i was hesitant to give brown sugar another try
until i found this in my local Asian market

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this is a DARK brown sugar, heavy honey aroma and toffee flavor when you open the bag! you can even eat it on its own
i knew it was good when it ruined my tea with that dirty molasses flavor.

recipe:

5 gallon of water
3kg of brown sugar
1 pound coconut sugar
1 pound of dates (for nutrient)
bread yeast

cooked it for 10 min with the dates thn i let it cool and added the yeast. it took 15 days to finish.
i stripped the wash to 10% abv, lots of flavors in the tails, ended up with a 5 liters of 35% abv.
before the spirit run i proof it to 25%, i find this to be the perfect abv for brandy so i thought it would work with rum.
i had troubles with the cuts but that to be expected with rum. i collected some tails for the flavor and stopped around 55%


my goal was to proof it to 58% for aging but i messed up and added too much water till it got to 51%
oaking at this proof would result in a dessert rum, not exactly what i want so to minimize the damage i decided to use European oak form the cold, dark ukrainian woods.
i find it heavier in spices and tobacco than French Oak, im hoping it would combat the sweetness.

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white dog is smooth and creamy at 42% tasty stuff!
i cant in good faith say its comparable to real molasses but overall, I am happy with the results.
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Congratulations on making a rum you like with one arm tied behind your back. :thumbup:
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NZChris wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:29 pm Congratulations on making a rum you like with one arm tied behind your back. :thumbup:
thanks Chris. im all for simplicity :D
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Are those 1 kg bags? Not familiar with that brand so I googled it.
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Congratulations on a great job! Everything about it sounds like something I would like to try myself. I bet it will turn out good.
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Sorry to bring back this topic, but event in your grocery store / supermarket you don't have the fancy table molasse? it is expensive, but 500ml added to your wash could potentially give nice flavor profile to your spirit?

Just an idea...

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Bushman wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:21 am Are those 1 kg bags? Not familiar with that brand so I googled it.
says 1kg in Singapore amazon i wasnt sure so i used 3 and half

https://www.amazon.sg/SIS-Textured-Brow ... ery&sr=1-4
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8Ball wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:49 am Congratulations on a great job! Everything about it sounds like something I would like to try myself. I bet it will turn out good.
thanks. love reading your posts in this section! i give my buddy your All Panela & Blackstrap recipe and he loved it unaged

Evil_Dark wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:09 am Sorry to bring back this topic, but event in your grocery store / supermarket you don't have the fancy table molasse? it is expensive, but 500ml added to your wash could potentially give nice flavor profile to your spirit?

Just an idea...

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i was trying to keep it 100% brown sugar. but your right its missing molasses
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maltyguy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:38 am i was trying to keep it 100% brown sugar. but your right its missing molasses
Well, I didn't tasted it so can't give my opinion... You are the one that can tell if this spirits suits your taste or not :P

It was just an idea. I had hard times to find molasses in my area, and I finally found some for animals. I was about to turn myself with the fancy one, but kinda expensive. Glad I found the one for the livestock, but I will have to restart my wash again as I sorched very bad my first stripping run and dumped everything in the drain. I was not patient enough, I have to let it ferment and sit for at least 14 days I think... And maybe used too much molasses. The one I have is thik, and looks like it has some animal feed mixed with it (a lot of solid / dust particles into it).

I may try your reciep, with an addition of 1 litre of the molasse that I have for the taste.

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Evil_Dark wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:09 am
maltyguy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:38 am i was trying to keep it 100% brown sugar. but your right its missing molasses
Well, I didn't tasted it so can't give my opinion... You are the one that can tell if this spirits suits your taste or not :P

It was just an idea. I had hard times to find molasses in my area, and I finally found some for animals. I was about to turn myself with the fancy one, but kinda expensive. Glad I found the one for the livestock, but I will have to restart my wash again as I sorched very bad my first stripping run and dumped everything in the drain. I was not patient enough, I have to let it ferment and sit for at least 14 days I think... And maybe used too much molasses. The one I have is thik, and looks like it has some animal feed mixed with it (a lot of solid / dust particles into it).

I may try your reciep, with an addition of 1 litre of the molasse that I have for the taste.

Regards,
i think food grade molasses is never cheap. where i live we have fruit molasses but most of them contain salt and preservatives!
if you want to try my recipe look for the darkest sugar you can find, regular brown sugar is not worth it
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maltyguy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:38 am
thanks. love reading your posts in this section! i give my buddy your All Panela & Blackstrap recipe and he loved it unaged
I’m glad he tried it. I have a 5G used oak cask full of it that has been aging for two years now. One more year to go!

I have a question about your recipe: are the dates fresh or preserved? I can only find the preserved ones and they are nothing compared with fresh, sweet dates. I think a panela, molasses, and fresh dates rum aged on toasted French oak would be great. Thanks for posting.
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8Ball wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:03 am
maltyguy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:38 am
thanks. love reading your posts in this section! i give my buddy your All Panela & Blackstrap recipe and he loved it unaged
I’m glad he tried it. I have a 5G used oak cask full of it that has been aging for two years now. One more year to go!

I have a question about your recipe: are the dates fresh or preserved? I can only find the preserved ones and they are nothing compared with fresh, sweet dates. I think a panela, molasses, and fresh dates rum aged on toasted French oak would be great. Thanks for posting.
Sounds delicious! I used fresh dates. But they are immensely complex In flavors that it could overpower the molasses.
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maltyguy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:31 am
8Ball wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:03 am
maltyguy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:38 am
thanks. love reading your posts in this section! i give my buddy your All Panela & Blackstrap recipe and he loved it unaged
I’m glad he tried it. I have a 5G used oak cask full of it that has been aging for two years now. One more year to go!

I have a question about your recipe: are the dates fresh or preserved? I can only find the preserved ones and they are nothing compared with fresh, sweet dates. I think a panela, molasses, and fresh dates rum aged on toasted French oak would be great. Thanks for posting.
Sounds delicious! I used fresh dates. But they are immensely complex In flavors that it could overpower the molasses.
I stopped in a store today and they had preserved, pitted, dates on sale. I got 2 pounds. Will start a panela, dates, and molasses rum in a few months. Maybe sooner.
🎱 The struggle is real and this rabbit hole just got interesting.
Per a conversation I had with Mr. Jay Gibbs regarding white oak barrel staves: “…you gotta get it burning good.”
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