How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets + ccvm flute
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How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets + ccvm flute
So this what you need to assemble a ccvm is pretty simple. This one is in 2 inch but is the reflux head for a 3 inch column so instead of the bell reducer I use under the tee
Here is what you need to do it. Remember this list is just the head but the same process connects the pc and packed or plated section. The material list will only include what's needed to make these connections
I'm doing this just to get more knowledge out here for visual learners and people who have difficulty with the rigid ptfe gaskets sealing up. Its my personal method and not the be all end all of gasket use.
Anyway the list
*3 triclamps in 2 inch
*3 ptfe gaskets
*an equal 2 inch triclamp tee
*a 90 degree triclamp elbow
*a 2 inch by 10 inch length triclamp spool. Or whatever size you want above your takeoff tee.
the following are optional
*a short spool 2" triclover to move the elbow that goes down to the pc a few inches from the column.
* a 2" triclover tee with the branch that connects to whatever size your thermo is. Mine is 1/2" npt with a 3 inch probe so I made mine from a copper spool I soldered a 1/2" fnpt into the side of. You could use a premade stainless tee with a 2" to themometer connection adapter. In my case it would be a 2inch tc cap to half inch fnpt and I'd have a longer probe.
*the thermometer. Its going to tell you the vapor temp headed for your PC
I use a thermo after the RC and a phase change diagram to monitor my abv. You can go directly to the elbow if you want.
Also
You're gonna need ptfe thread tape. A half inch width roll and a 1 inch width roll. Even though you can do it with all half inch. Get the white stuff. Not the blue monster or yellow.
Ok so I start with the take off tee to the thermo tee. You'll see why later.
I begin by wrapping the 1/2" tape around each ferrule I'm joining. once evenly around with a little overlap. I delicately keep the tape flat and with the ridge of the flange in the center so some goes around the angled part and the rest can be folded down into the groove in the ferrule face. I'll use a gasket to push fit it and fold it. Be careful to cut your tape and not pull it because that will stretch it diagnolly blocking some vapor path. If it does stretch over just gently roll it back in the groove
Not covering the vapor path but rough
Rolled back and push fit with gasket
Covering the other side to be joined
Pushed it into groove in ferrule and gasket set on top
This is one of the reasons I did this in this order. Balance the tee on top and use a single wrap of the one inch tape to go all the way around the outside of the ferrule gasket sandwich. The pic I'm wrapping the 1 inch around is blurry, only one hand lol. But the single wraps with a lol overlap are important on all the taped connections. Too much tape your clampmwont fit.
Now clamp it up. Tight. But hand tight. I mean really hand tight.
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Here is what you need to do it. Remember this list is just the head but the same process connects the pc and packed or plated section. The material list will only include what's needed to make these connections
I'm doing this just to get more knowledge out here for visual learners and people who have difficulty with the rigid ptfe gaskets sealing up. Its my personal method and not the be all end all of gasket use.
Anyway the list
*3 triclamps in 2 inch
*3 ptfe gaskets
*an equal 2 inch triclamp tee
*a 90 degree triclamp elbow
*a 2 inch by 10 inch length triclamp spool. Or whatever size you want above your takeoff tee.
the following are optional
*a short spool 2" triclover to move the elbow that goes down to the pc a few inches from the column.
* a 2" triclover tee with the branch that connects to whatever size your thermo is. Mine is 1/2" npt with a 3 inch probe so I made mine from a copper spool I soldered a 1/2" fnpt into the side of. You could use a premade stainless tee with a 2" to themometer connection adapter. In my case it would be a 2inch tc cap to half inch fnpt and I'd have a longer probe.
*the thermometer. Its going to tell you the vapor temp headed for your PC
I use a thermo after the RC and a phase change diagram to monitor my abv. You can go directly to the elbow if you want.
Also
You're gonna need ptfe thread tape. A half inch width roll and a 1 inch width roll. Even though you can do it with all half inch. Get the white stuff. Not the blue monster or yellow.
Ok so I start with the take off tee to the thermo tee. You'll see why later.
I begin by wrapping the 1/2" tape around each ferrule I'm joining. once evenly around with a little overlap. I delicately keep the tape flat and with the ridge of the flange in the center so some goes around the angled part and the rest can be folded down into the groove in the ferrule face. I'll use a gasket to push fit it and fold it. Be careful to cut your tape and not pull it because that will stretch it diagnolly blocking some vapor path. If it does stretch over just gently roll it back in the groove
Not covering the vapor path but rough
Rolled back and push fit with gasket
Covering the other side to be joined
Pushed it into groove in ferrule and gasket set on top
This is one of the reasons I did this in this order. Balance the tee on top and use a single wrap of the one inch tape to go all the way around the outside of the ferrule gasket sandwich. The pic I'm wrapping the 1 inch around is blurry, only one hand lol. But the single wraps with a lol overlap are important on all the taped connections. Too much tape your clampmwont fit.
Now clamp it up. Tight. But hand tight. I mean really hand tight.
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
Continuing
Solid as a rock.
Now we move to the 90 elbow for the pc. This is the second reason I started with the take off branch. It's gonna make things easier to keep square. Prewrap and fit into the groove. Once it's held together and your bottom faces that go to column and pc are flush raise it gently and wrap the 1inch tape around and clamp it. Lower it back after to make sure you got it flush.
Gently raise and inch tape
Next post with more.
Solid as a rock.
Now we move to the 90 elbow for the pc. This is the second reason I started with the take off branch. It's gonna make things easier to keep square. Prewrap and fit into the groove. Once it's held together and your bottom faces that go to column and pc are flush raise it gently and wrap the 1inch tape around and clamp it. Lower it back after to make sure you got it flush.
Gently raise and inch tape
Next post with more.
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
Now clamp it and lay it down flat to .make sure your assembly is free standing.
Next comes the tee extension and your csst condenser!
Pre wrap each side into the groove
Sit the gasket on top the tee. Then the sit the extension tube on top. Wrapmitmonce around with 1 inch tape and tuck it around the flanges tight just like before. Then clamp her up
One inch tape on
Then tucked
Now clamped
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Next comes the tee extension and your csst condenser!
Pre wrap each side into the groove
Sit the gasket on top the tee. Then the sit the extension tube on top. Wrapmitmonce around with 1 inch tape and tuck it around the flanges tight just like before. Then clamp her up
One inch tape on
Then tucked
Now clamped
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
Here she is before the csst is added remember 1 wrap of each tape with overlap. Maybe 2wraps tops. Too much tape your clampsnwont first. This has never failed me with hard gaskets that people have issue with.
Next post will be for making a 2 inch condenser that fits and works.
Next post will be for making a 2 inch condenser that fits and works.
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
I'd of never thought of the tape in the joint...good one
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
Ok this is my csst condenser. Its 60 inches of 1/2" csst. A true coil with cold finger would be smaller csst as the OD of this is 5/8". I call this the caduceus condenser where the cold finger coil is more of a staff of asclepius.
Here it is.
As you can see it push fits well but we're gonna use some copper mesh to fit it a little more
To wind it I folded the length in half. Had my buddy hold the fold in some vise grips while I took the ends coming off and formed the loose coil. Gloves helped. This big csst is better for larger diameter still heads.
Now comes the next post. Mesh addition for added efficiency and a better push fit. Then the system I made to hold it in place while push fit and heavy with coolant flow.
Here it is.
As you can see it push fits well but we're gonna use some copper mesh to fit it a little more
To wind it I folded the length in half. Had my buddy hold the fold in some vise grips while I took the ends coming off and formed the loose coil. Gloves helped. This big csst is better for larger diameter still heads.
Now comes the next post. Mesh addition for added efficiency and a better push fit. Then the system I made to hold it in place while push fit and heavy with coolant flow.
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
I basically tie the end of the mesh together and starting with the loop thread it folded tight between each twist. I leave the remainder hanging from the bottom loop. Then I wrap it loosely around the outside with the hanging remainder. Loose but tight enough to make it stay while push fit. I wrap the end at the top of the twist and tie it on with some copper strands after making it tight.
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
Thanks Chauncey...this may be the way I go when I'm able to get back to building/assembling things. Been wanting to figure out reflux for years. Might be an easy way to get started. Thanks sgain.
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
And here it is at full push
So that's how you build a ccvm head. And that's how you make hard it's gaskets leakproof.
So that's how you build a ccvm head. And that's how you make hard it's gaskets leakproof.
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Re: A double guide. How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
I guess I need to do more reading. I didn't realize there were folks having a problem with the PTFE hard gaskets sealing up. Nice solution for those that do.
Is the thermometer really necessary in a CCVM offtake?
Ive built my column, but haven't twisted the RC yet so I haven't run it. I just figured the thermometer wasn't really needed.
Is the thermometer really necessary in a CCVM offtake?
Ive built my column, but haven't twisted the RC yet so I haven't run it. I just figured the thermometer wasn't really needed.
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Well it isn't required necessarily. I should go back and mention that a spool or even just an elbow is okay instead. But it is useful to compare to the phase change diagram while running so you don't need parrots and stuff.
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Re: Ccvm flute + How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets
Pic of my 2 inch head over four 3inch bubble plates. Connects to a 2 inch keg. In a run in a bit so ill let ya see it all setup
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Re: How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets + ccvm flute
Nice write-up with lots of Pics Chauncey
VM ( or CCVM) head works really well on a plated still . Good to see you using it .Hopefully thanks to your great DIY a few more might take it up and enjoy the ease of operation .
VM ( or CCVM) head works really well on a plated still . Good to see you using it .Hopefully thanks to your great DIY a few more might take it up and enjoy the ease of operation .
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https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
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Thanks yummy. Gotta say it helps to throttle your coolant into the RC cuz the adjustment is so little movement when its at full flow. Throttled back i had more range of motion for rc control.
My third sight glass was wet and condensate drip covered but not foggy like tails persay, so was my first glass. The middle and the top(2nd and 4th) wefe fine. Believe it was cuz they were dirty. When. Tails fog came i could tell the diff. Gonna try running 3 plates next time 4 mde the whiskey a touch light.
My third sight glass was wet and condensate drip covered but not foggy like tails persay, so was my first glass. The middle and the top(2nd and 4th) wefe fine. Believe it was cuz they were dirty. When. Tails fog came i could tell the diff. Gonna try running 3 plates next time 4 mde the whiskey a touch light.
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Re: How to assemble a simple ccvm head for newbs +using hard ptfe gaskets + ccvm flute
Thanks for the write up.