Shady's Sugar Shine

[NZChris]

So what ahould be my starting ph then

The answer to that is in Shady's OP.

[shadylane]

I have gypsum or chalk amy recommendations for which and how much

Chalk might help, it's hard to say how much, add a little at a time and find out.
I'd go to a grocery store and buy some pickling lime.
If you haven't already added any Epsom salt, get some of that too.

[Ndb]

I have gypsum or chalk amy recommendations for which and how much

Chalk might help, it's hard to say how much, add a little at a time and find out.
I'd go to a grocery store and buy some pickling lime.
If you haven't already added any Epsom salt, get some of that too.

I have epsom salt so i will add a pinch amd the chalk i will add. Do you recommend blitzing into a tornado again.

[Yummyrum]

I have gypsum or chalk amy recommendations for which and how much

Chalk is calcium carbonate … thats the one …. but probably too late .

Gypsum is calcium sulfate …. Plaster of paris…definitely not the one .

[shadylane]

Do you recommend blitzing into a tornado again.

You only do that at the beginning.

[shadylane]

PH stalls can be a bitch to restart sometimes, so are best avoided.

Words of wisdom right there.

[Ndb]

PH stalls can be a bitch to restart sometimes, so are best avoided.

Words of wisdom right there.

Lesson definitely learnt.
I dont know why i dropped the ph so low to start.

[Ndb]

I have gypsum or chalk amy recommendations for which and how much

Chalk might help, it's hard to say how much, add a little at a time and find out.
I'd go to a grocery store and buy some pickling lime.
If you haven't already added any Epsom salt, get some of that too.

I have epsom salt so i will add a pinch amd the chalk i will add. Do you recommend blitzing into a tornado again.

Added it in will test tomorrow morning. Hopefully will have kicked off after 12hrs of waiting will update affer then

[shadylane]

Lesson definitely learnt.
I dont know why i dropped the ph so low to start.

And Ya forgot the Epsom salt also.
Yeast needs the magnesium.

There's some magnesium in the shell grit also. Which you forgot.
The poor yeast probably isn't too happy.

[Saltbush Bill]

Could have left the yeast out too.......would have got the same result.....just faster.

[jonnys_spirit]

For reference, what was the pH when it stalled and and what did you raise it to with the calcium carbonate? I missed those details - which may be helpful for other folks that present with this scenario in the future.

Cheers!
-j

[bcook608]

PH stalls can be a bitch to restart sometimes, so are best avoided.

Words of wisdom right there.

Lesson definitely learnt.
I dont know why i dropped the ph so low to start.

I just ran into a similar problem. Temp to high and ph dropped horribly. Add Calcium Hydroxide to raise to around 4-4.5 and pitch another round of yeast. Let it sit in top until it's rehydrated and gently stir in after about 45 minutes to an hour. Mine took right back off.

It seems like your temp isn't an issue so you should be able to get it back up and running.

[Ndb]

PH stalls can be a bitch to restart sometimes, so are best avoided.

Words of wisdom right there.

Lesson definitely learnt.
I dont know why i dropped the ph so low to start.

I just ran into a similar problem. Temp to high and ph dropped horribly. Add Calcium Hydroxide to raise to around 4-4.5 and pitch another round of yeast. Let it sit in top until it's rehydrated and gently stir in after about 45 minutes to an hour. Mine took right back off.

It seems like your temp isn't an issue so you should be able to get it back up and running.

Would baking soda be okay to raise ph as i dont have amy acces to calciium hydroxide and im going away for a week. Tried more chalk and yeast still nothing

[shadylane]

Baking soda is better than nothing.
I'd pitch some more yeast also.
Ya definitely need to rehydrate the yeast before pitching.
The yeast needs 10 to 15 minutes soaking up plain warm water, to get the cell wall functioning before being thrown in a hostile environment.

If by chance you have any ec1118 yeast, now would be the time to use it.

[Ndb]

Baking soda is better than nothing.
I'd pitch some more yeast also.
Ya definitely need to rehydrate the yeast before pitching.
The yeast needs 10 to 15 minutes soaking up plain warm water, to get the cell wall functioning before being thrown in a hostile environment.

If by chance you have any ec1118 yeast, now would be the time to use it.

If i cant get this going again, what are my options?

[NZChris]

If i cant get this going again, what are my options?

Kick the can over. You won't be the first.

Or.... seeing as you are going away and can't fiddle with it every day, I suggest you hang shells or limestone, (by it's various names), in it and hope for the best. You might get lucky.

I'm sure you'll do better next time.

[Ndb]

If i cant get this going again, what are my options?

Kick the can over. You won't be the first.

Or.... seeing as you are going away and can't fiddle with it every day, I suggest you hang shells or limestone, (by it's various names), in it and hope for the best. You might get lucky.

I'm sure you'll do better next time.

Cant i run it? I would obviously get a small yield but surely still something?

[NZChris]

I have done that.

[shadylane]

If i cant get this going again, what are my options?

Run it when you get back home next week.
It might surprise you and ferment some more while you're gone.
The shine might not taste as good as it should have.
But you'll have something to drink as punishment while brewing another batch.

[Ndb]

If i cant get this going again, what are my options?

Run it when you get back home next week.
It might surprise you and ferment some more while you're gone.
The shine might not taste as good as it should have.
But you'll have something to drink as punishment while brewing another batch.

Ill rehydrate and pitch some more yeast and add baking soda. Hopefully i can get the PH up to 5 and ill run it in a week.

[shadylane]

Grab a bag of this for your next sugar wash.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/produ ... DpEALw_wcB

[Ndb]

Grab a bag of this for your next sugar wash.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/produ ... DpEALw_wcB

Will do.

UPDATE

After 4 heaped teaspoons of baking soda amd 4 of chalk
I managaed to get PH up to 5 i then rehydrayed some yeast and pitched. 1 hour later foam cap on top and fizzing away. What a ride

[Sporacle]

I managaed to get PH up to 5 i then rehydrayed some yeast and pitched. 1 hour later foam cap on top and fizzing away. What a ride

Well done, now back slowly away from the fermentor and let it do its thing.....

[Ndb]

I managaed to get PH up to 5 i then rehydrayed some yeast and pitched. 1 hour later foam cap on top and fizzing away. What a ride

Well done, now back slowly away from the fermentor and let it do its thing.....

Time for my holiday now. Then to run these once i get back home

[NZChris]

While you are on holiday, keep an eye out for blocks of marble and seashells. Any solid form of calcium carbonate is useful.

[Ndb]

While you are on holiday, keep an eye out for blocks of marble and seashells. Any solid form of calcium carbonate is useful.

Will do

[Ndb]

While you are on holiday, keep an eye out for blocks of marble and seashells. Any solid form of calcium carbonate is useful.

Would travertine paver qualify for this, i have a few around home i can smash up

[Yummyrum]

While you are on holiday, keep an eye out for blocks of marble and seashells. Any solid form of calcium carbonate is useful.

Careful Chris
Nek minut derelict headstones and marble doves and Angels will be offered as sacrifices to the spirits .


OK , now I’m imagining a Meme where there is a pic of collapsing of the Sistine Chapel while
Mum and Dad are explaining to customs what the chunk of marble pillar is for…….

[EricTheRed]

OK , now I’m imagining a Meme where there is a pic of collapsing of the Sistine Chapel while
Mum and Dad are explaining to customs what the chunk of marble pillar is for…….

[shadylane]

Grab a bag of this for your next sugar wash.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/produ ... DpEALw_wcB

Will do.

UPDATE

After 4 heaped teaspoons of baking soda amd 4 of chalk
I managaed to get PH up to 5 i then rehydrayed some yeast and pitched. 1 hour later foam cap on top and fizzing away. What a ride

When you get back home start another batch following the recipe.
Room temp will work but 86*f will work better.
Just don't let the temp get higher than that.