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VLAGAVULVIN wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:28 am Well, folks... how would you like "fare now well my father" instead of "farewell now my father"?

1. Is the first example easily associated with the second?

2. Is the first one clear at all?

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Myself not English as firts language but in a sea faring community I would think the first one would make sence... to me at least.
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Saltbush Bill wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:59 am Zactly.
Heh, I gotta remember it. All those zactly, arvo...

Usually, in the Ural winter, we once again do not open our mouth wide. Do you folks have severe frosts there too, lol? Or just being afraid to disturb the Dundee's crocs with your too long speeches? :D
Setsumi wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:01 am but in a sea faring community I would think the first one would make sence... to me at least.
Seafaring? An interesting guess, you know... Why do you think so? :)

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My mother once told me that the scots speak the way they do because it is so cold that they don't open their mouths wide.

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VLAGAVULVIN wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:16 am
Saltbush Bill wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:59 am Zactly.
Heh, I gotta remember it. All those zactly, arvo...

Usually, in the Ural winter, we once again do not open our mouth wide. Do you folks have severe frosts there too, lol? Or just being afraid to disturb the Dundee's crocs with your too long speeches? :D
Setsumi wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:01 am but in a sea faring community I would think the first one would make sence... to me at least.
Seafaring? An interesting guess, you know... Why do you think so? :)
The "fare now" might indicate that the tide or wind is ready.... sort off the tide does not wait hurry up and use it.
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The Baker wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:03 pm My mother once told me that the scots speak the way they do because it is so cold that they don't open their mouths wide.
Hehe, do they call it "cold"? I'd say there's chill, wet and windy. Even Orkney islands have a better winter than St.Petersburg or Moscow... but the "summer" in Scotland sucks in contrast to ours, yeah.

I guess the matter is "a couple of backgrounds" for their "English" there. One of them is Scots lang. Another one is Scottish Gaelic. The first one has phonetics close to Middle English and Old Norse / Norn. The second is one of Goidelic Celtic languages. Which sounds sometimes more like Russian or Portuguese for those who live south of Scotland.
Setsumi wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:43 pm The "fare now" might indicate that the tide or wind is ready.... sort off the tide does not wait hurry up and use it.
Oh wow... why not, now I see it. Thanks, mate :)

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So... The empress...


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Nice vid / same comments:



No politics, at least, I hope so.

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Interesting analysis. No politics involved... hopefully like this one.
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Looks like Langfocus / I like the Paul's channel, too.
Twisted Brick wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:31 pm Interesting analysis. No politics involved... hopefully like this one.
'Flyazhka' in Russian looks like this:
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Same word / semantic shift (or drift?)... :)

And flyazhka is kinda diminutive of 'flyaga', lol:
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