Best yeast for molasses
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Best yeast for molasses
Im new to this, i tried to make moonshine with bakers yeast as a trial run it was the most fowl smelling thing ever, maybe i could have sold it to police for riot control!!, i think the temp was too high, really was a test run for the distiller. Anyway molasses here in jamaica is sold everywhere so i wanna try to make my own rum, what would be the best yeast? Any other advise would be great thanks.
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Most of the store bought bakers yeast was grown in a molasses medium.So that's what I use.
I use a pot still.Sometimes with a thumper
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jamaicanrum wrote:Im new to this, i tried to make moonshine with bakers yeast as a trial run it was the most fowl smelling thing ever, maybe i could have sold it to police for riot control!!, i think the temp was too high, really was a test run for the distiller. Anyway molasses here in jamaica is sold everywhere so i wanna try to make my own rum, what would be the best yeast? Any other advise would be great thanks.
Humm.. I use bakers yeast exclusively for my neutral ethanol and it comes out great!
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Re: Best yeast for molasses
Rum recipes and procedures over in the Tried and True section -
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jamaicanrum, perhaps you could describe what we will most likely determine to be faulty practice as far as your recipe, fermentation, and distillation... Were you using unsulfured molasses...??? I truly doubt bakers yeast was to blame for the foul smell...
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All of my best batches have come from bakers yeast. My least successful batches where from recommended yeasts from the brew shop......
I have yet to try the Danstill 493 however.
I have yet to try the Danstill 493 however.
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you want to experiment? make a wash with molasses/water.rather light, maybe 1.035?.
sterilize (boil) separate into several sterile jars*. place a piece of ripe sugarcane in one,leave there
for about a week,,after it has fermented and settled pore off the "water" save the yeast.
use this to start a ferment and another Minny ferment. keep the "mother"jar going to propagate more.
this was "jug yeast" of long ago and a few still use it.
*the new screw top caning jars work good ,the tops work as a check valve letting it off gas.
sterilize (boil) separate into several sterile jars*. place a piece of ripe sugarcane in one,leave there
for about a week,,after it has fermented and settled pore off the "water" save the yeast.
use this to start a ferment and another Minny ferment. keep the "mother"jar going to propagate more.
this was "jug yeast" of long ago and a few still use it.
*the new screw top caning jars work good ,the tops work as a check valve letting it off gas.
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Larry - I have looked and looked for some 493 and never been able to find any so if you find a source I'd appreciate the info. Btw, my last rum was fermented with Lalvin K1-V1116 and I was pleased with the results.
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Re: Best yeast for molasses
I whole heartedly agree. I tried a distillers yeast and it wasnt that good for the molasses. Im sure there are yeast better than bakers yeast, but i think the bakers yeast adds a good flavor as well!Tater wrote:Most of the store bought bakers yeast was grown in a molasses medium.So that's what I use.
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I'd be happy with 500gr if I knew where to get it.blind drunk wrote:Seems only available in 500 gr packages ...
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Saw it on White Labs ...
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My brew shop guy is lally gagin round and never orders it and never will give me a price so I got tired of askin.....er, the 493
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It was moonshine i was trying to make the first time that was the one with the fowl smell, i was doing a bit of reading i now know i did wrong, had to do with the container i used to make the mash was not cleaned properly, i had put it in the kitchen and the helper had seasoned chicken in it and then washed it out and put it back in the same place, i didn't know she had done that, then i mixed i guess that was the problem.
im trying my luck on the rum now, this time the container is clean.
1.2 gallons water.
1 kg white sugar.
250 ml molasses
1 cup powdered sugar
Bakers yeast
Is this an ok mix?
well gonna see what happens now,
im trying my luck on the rum now, this time the container is clean.
1.2 gallons water.
1 kg white sugar.
250 ml molasses
1 cup powdered sugar
Bakers yeast
Is this an ok mix?
well gonna see what happens now,
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Ya, BD I've seen it there as well. I've emailed them a couple of times and they never respond.blind drunk wrote:Saw it on White Labs ...
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You are right at the upper limit for bakers yeast as far as potential %ABV of the wash is concerned, at 14+%... You may need some additional nutrients to achieve a timely and complete ferment...
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Don't you just hate that ...rtalbigr wrote:Ya, BD I've seen it there as well. I've emailed them a couple of times and they never respond.blind drunk wrote:Saw it on White Labs ...
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1.3 gallons water.
1 kg white sugar.
250 ml molasses (from factory) grade A i guess
1 cup powdered sugar
1 banana skin choped fine.
Benjamins artificial Almond flavoring ( just a tip)
Bakers yeast
4 days fermenting
Came out great for me, good white rum, next time ill leave out powder sugar i see no need for it.
1 kg white sugar.
250 ml molasses (from factory) grade A i guess
1 cup powdered sugar
1 banana skin choped fine.
Benjamins artificial Almond flavoring ( just a tip)
Bakers yeast
4 days fermenting
Came out great for me, good white rum, next time ill leave out powder sugar i see no need for it.
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oh and ill try 1 pound sugar next time to see difference.
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Hi there,
I'm new to this and have a question re yeast. I'm making a light rum, 1kg molasses, 6kg sugar, 20 ltr water and yeast. I've tried a couple, turbo, which have me great volume lousy quality (800mm at 60% ), bakers yeast, great qualiity, lousy volume (500mm at 40% ). Any recommendations? Do I need yeast nutrient? Made a nuetral spirit on baker yeast and got a return of 500mm at 30% what am I doing wrong??????
I'm new to this and have a question re yeast. I'm making a light rum, 1kg molasses, 6kg sugar, 20 ltr water and yeast. I've tried a couple, turbo, which have me great volume lousy quality (800mm at 60% ), bakers yeast, great qualiity, lousy volume (500mm at 40% ). Any recommendations? Do I need yeast nutrient? Made a nuetral spirit on baker yeast and got a return of 500mm at 30% what am I doing wrong??????
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And there you have it Fed... Quality and Quantity do not go together in the hobby...
There are some great recipes in the Tried and True... section of the forum...
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Thanks Samohon. So I'm not doing anything wrong it's just the way it roles
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Kinda one or the other Fed.
Round here most stay away from turbos and increase volume by putting another fermenter in service.
Round here most stay away from turbos and increase volume by putting another fermenter in service.
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So it's true... Smiley Culture is dead!Samohon wrote:Do you really need all those smiley's...?
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LWTCS
Round here most stay away from turbos and increase volume by putting another fermenter in service.
What other fermenters are there?
Cheers
Fed
Round here most stay away from turbos and increase volume by putting another fermenter in service.
What other fermenters are there?
Cheers
Fed
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If your doing a 50L wash Fed, put another 50L wash on tomorrow...Fed wrote:LWTCS
Round here most stay away from turbos and increase volume by putting another fermenter in service.
What other fermenters are there?
Cheers
Fed
You wont be long in bringing your stock levels up...
When I do an All-Grain, I get between 6 - 8%abv depending on how long I boil the wort for sterilizing purposes...
So I dont do just 1 AG, 3 or 4 batches combined gives me a good yield...
Hope it helps...
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Re: Best yeast for molasses
Anyone ever tried a combination of bakers and distillers yeast for rum. From what i read you get good flavor and a good abv.
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Yeast don't give ABV they tolerate it. Too high and they stress out and shit in the soup.
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how light are we talking, bacardi light?Fed wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:32 am Hi there,
I'm new to this and have a question re yeast. I'm making a light rum, 1kg molasses, 6kg sugar, 20 ltr water and yeast. I've tried a couple, turbo, which have me great volume lousy quality (800mm at 60% ), bakers yeast, great qualiity, lousy volume (500mm at 40% ). Any recommendations? Do I need yeast nutrient? Made a nuetral spirit on baker yeast and got a return of 500mm at 30% what am I doing wrong??????
just yesterday i put about 15l of rum, that had been stripped & spirit run already, through my reflux for a 3rd distillation.
i do this for my Mojito's.
the rum taste still comes through ok, but subtle.
hearts will be bottled, feints go back into the heavy rum runs.
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I have not tried this. My understanding is that if you put 2 yeasts in the same ferment, unless they are very closely related, the more aggressive yeast will usually take over. I use a 2 yeast protocol on a high Abv, high residual sugar wine I make where I pitch the slow low fermenter (use a few different one) early, then a couple days later I pitch ec1118 to finish it. This does create a better flavor profile in that wine, but if I pitch 1118 day 1 I cant tell the difference from a 1118 wine. So if you want to try this, pitch the bakers first, then the Dady I would think.Sarge410884 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:41 pm Anyone ever tried a combination of bakers and distillers yeast for rum. From what i read you get good flavor and a good abv.
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That said, I don’t push anything I’m going to distill to high Abv as I have gotten off flavors and smells when I did. I’ve never used a turbo, but heard enough to avoid them. I use Dady (sugar wash and AG) and bakers (rum) most of the time unless it’s a fruit wash then I use wine yeast.
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