mason jar lids

[Swedish Pride]

Now I'm deffo doing it, just to be contrary.

Wet it first and it's already swollen right

[TwoSheds]

I think you're going to find the liquid will pool, then the end grain portions of the groove are going to start carying it away like little wicks, then more will flow down until a week later all you have is an empty jar and the fastest barrel candy anyone has ever made.

But go for it! Take pictures, let us know. I love a good experiment!

TwoSheds

[Twisted Brick]

Now I'm deffo doing it, just to be contrary.

Wet it first and it's already swollen right

As long as I can remember.

[Swedish Pride]

There we are

Soaked for a day and a half, let's see where it's at in a few months.

Obviously the booze to oak ratio is ridiculous but that's a different discussion

[TwoSheds]

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There we are

Soaked for a day and a half, let's see where it's at in a few months.

Obviously the booze to oak ratio is ridiculous but that's a different discussion

That looks awesome! A borad of 3 or 5 of them would be pretty cool too!

I don't think the surface/volume ratio is as far off as you might think, but it'll be interesting to see how much wicking happens.

Keep us posted!

[ecir54]

damn should have waited on buying that wood and just found me a barrel, anyway the wood came in today so set the router up with the circle jig and hope to find some time tomorrow to play.

the router circle jig requires a 1/8 hole to be drilled in the wood for a pin that is used to center the hole size. Do yall think filling the 1/8 hole with bees wax would seal? Maybe a 1/8 wood dowel and bees wax?

wood looks good definitely needs to be weathered and spend some time in the oven, need to find a barrel .

[Yummyrum]

Does hole have to go right through wood ?

[NormandieStill]

the router circle jig requires a 1/8 hole to be drilled in the wood for a pin that is used to center the hole size. Do yall think filling the 1/8 hole with bees wax would seal? Maybe a 1/8 wood dowel and bees wax?

Use your circle jig on some scrap plywood to make a template that you can use with a pattern or flush trim bit, or a guide bushing.

[ecir54]

as scrap piece is always a given, yummy a 1/4 is not enough to play with the router needs to be planted. if i had a barrel to play with could make it work without drilling through.

[Swedish Pride]

A week In I see a fairly aggressive loss

[Saltbush Bill]

Those are some thirsty angels , Jars gunna be empty in another Month.

[Swedish Pride]

Yeah, looks a bust alright, will give it a full month just for the Craig

Next test will be to have it just as a lid in a normal upright orientation.
I'd expect similar results to your experiment with a hole in a flagon lid

[ecir54]

test piece out of birch. 1/8 seal lip seems just right.

[Bradster68]

Yeah, looks a bust alright, will give it a full month just for the Craig

Next test will be to have it just as a lid in a normal upright orientation.
I'd expect similar results to your experiment with a hole in a flagon lid

Well I don't consider it a bust. You've done all the work and were gracious enough to post your results for us to see. And maybe it will ignite a thought in someone else who's on a similar experiment.
I personally appreciate all who experiment and share .
Thanks and

[ecir54]

one done

[Yummyrum]

Looks the business Eric . How about a stainless screw in the hole

[ecir54]

like that idea, have a good assortment of stainless in house.

two boards down three to go, taking a break right now then will finish them up

[ecir54]

a couple mistakes on the first couple planks, ended up with 29.

Might give these skewers a go. they are .16 diameter

[jonnys_spirit]

Those look great! Interested to see how they seal. Some beeswax might help.

Cheers,
J

[TwoSheds]

Those look great! Interested to see how they seal. Some beeswax might help.

Cheers,
J

My version doesn't seal well at all, but they stay upright and give what I consider a reasonable angels share over 6 months to a year. After that they get replaced with solid lids or the spirit is moved into bottles.

[jonnys_spirit]

Those look great! Interested to see how they seal. Some beeswax might help.

Cheers,
J

My version doesn't seal well at all, but they stay upright and give what I consider a reasonable angels share over 6 months to a year. After that they get replaced with solid lids or the spirit is moved into bottles.

Maybe a thin strip of cork sheet or ptfe wrapped around the "bung" could work as a gasket for this if someone wanted to fine tune. Something with some "give" for any swelling.

KISS is certainly my go-to unless complexity is required so there's always that.

If storing upright is there any oak coloring/flavoring or anything like that without adding fingers or stave pieces?

Cheers,
jonny

[TwoSheds]

If storing upright is there any oak coloring/flavoring or anything like that without adding fingers or stave pieces?

Nope. Not that I can sense. I add chunks of barrel stave for flavor/color. My lids are purely for air exchange.

[ecir54]

lol now yall tell me, will make good liners if anything

order those skewers and some beeswax, will try them out this weekend with water.

[ecir54]

24 hr sit with water. hammered a short piece of the skewers mentioned above that was wiped with beeswax.

Time to read up on the OtisT toasting thread

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[LordL]

one done

That was exactly what I have thought of as well, but I don't have the tools.. :/

Thank you for showing!

[Yummyrum]

Looks good Eric
Did you use anything to seal the wood to the jar ?

[ecir54]

No just hand tight yummy.

Going to let it sit another 24 hrs inverted standing up like Swedish pride had his. Wondering if the head pressure of additional height would make a difference. Within a half hour i can see more penetration of liquid in the oak but no water spewing yet, will see how it goes.

[Swedish Pride]

Looks the business.

[jonnys_spirit]

I'm really liking this approach for a smaller batch solera or longer series of solera stages where you might be able to develop some different toast/char/wood levels into the series with a number of progressively more used wood stages leading to an endpoint. If it can seal consistently with opening/closing multiple times...

Cheers!
-jonny

[Swedish Pride]

I reckon it's safe to call this a bust by now

About half gone in 3 weeks, can't be having that.

After next spirit run I'll try it just as a lid and see how that goes