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Swedish Pride wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:13 am I reckon it's safe to call this a bust by now
I think it's a complete success... as a diffuser! I bet the room smells great.

A small amount of spirit to invest in a good experiment. Now, I wonder how what's left tastes! If it's as good as 15 year old it might just be worth the loss.

Nice work, regardless.

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Fruit flies liked it, me not so much, needs more time.
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Let's see how it performs as a lid
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Swedish Pride wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:31 pm Let's see how it performs as a lid
Just look at that craftsmanship! LOL

Seriously though, I think you're onto something there, just make sure they aren't somewhere they could get tipped over. I'm thinking about doing something pretty similar for Corney kegs, but I might decide to get fancier and shape them. Don't know yet.

Good move leaving it thick. Even quarter-sawn oak will warp eventually with uneven moisture content on each side. The thickness will surely buy you some time.

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set it upright on the 12th this month in the garage. First few day had some minor leakage but once the wood swelled up it looked fine.

Aged water coming along nice lol. hung the rest of them on the fence to get weathered, starting to get that fresh cut wood smell gone.
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Can I toss in a grenade here ? I was also researching a suitable jar lid that could breath, but I saw a post from NZChris (below) that warned a wood seal might expand and break the glass, that would be a very scary thought to have 8 litres of hard earned hooch eating up the wife's parquet floor... :esad:

Would be grateful for any comments....
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I put mine on hand tight and when yummy asked about it i had to use a strap wrench to get the top off so yeah proceed with caution. So far no problem over here and have played with removing top on occasion to feel it out.
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I saw NZChris 's reply to my comment and yup it might be a problem.
So i got to thinking - if one was to make a slab with a recessed circle and just place it on top. Could put a weight on it to ensure it doesn't jostle loose.
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EricTheRed wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:11 pm I saw NZChris 's reply to my comment and yup it might be a problem.
So i got to thinking - if one was to make a slab with a recessed circle and just place it on top. Could put a weight on it to ensure it doesn't jostle loose.
Was thinking about that myself.
If you really need the lid gap to be airtight you could make brush the recessed circle with warm sugar water.
Should seal up nicely,
Or boil it until it is caramelized and brush that on, may even get some nice flavour from it
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I have no idea what you two are talking about. :D
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I've been doing this more & more recently since I haven't found the perfect solution... just resting offcuts of oak or pine on 1/2g or 1g mason jars & jugs with oak sticks in them. I figure it allows it to breathe just fine & haven't noticed an appreciable evap loss over the 6 months or so I've been doing it.
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IAmPistolPete wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:54 am offcuts of oak or pine
I would not recommend pine!
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So on some internet soul searching:
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These are definitely out because I don't know the glue they use to compound the cork, it may decompose and fall into the hooch, and I am informed that is too big (my lid needs to be 10cm) and would cause excess loss. Then I found these:
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These look like glued bamboo with a silicone seal. So the glue is a possible no no. Does anybody know if bamboo is inert and would nor affect spirit flavours ?
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Any bamboo material that is not just a dried cane is basically resin. I wouldn't put it anywhere near booze. Stick with a piece of real wood across the top or find a better container.
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:D :D :D

Can get these in Pine, Beech or Ash. I have heard of whiskey being aged in Ash wood barrels before... :think:
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I posted what I made out of oak here:

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Is that what you're thinking for a recessed circle? I was originally planning to have the side with the recess in the jar but it ended up being just right to slip into the ring, but there's enough room for swelling either way. If you want to get scientific about it there are wood movement calculators out there, but that's probably overkill.

I have found these tend to try to warp like most wood does when it has uneven humidity on opposing sides. The ring is generally enough to keep them on and flat (just don't lift them by the ring) so a bit of weight placed well should also work.

Hope that helps.

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Super informative and educational thread. My newbie question: ( I read the entire thread and don't remember this being mentioned) is how long in a standard mason jar, with the standard lid, is considered OK until you should have a longer term solution? Thanks.

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Zacher wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:21 am Super informative and educational thread. My newbie question: ( I read the entire thread and don't remember this being mentioned) is how long in a standard mason jar, with the standard lid, is considered OK until you should have a longer term solution? Thanks.
Given the plastics rule on the forum, the answer would be "zero seconds". You need a better solution in place before you have any product to put in them. If you already have product in them, I would swap the lid for several layers of untreated cloth, or coffee filters, or possibly aluminium foil.

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PTFE liners arrived today and are now in place. :ewink:
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Just shopping for canning lids and found some wood ones for sale. Probably should of had a closer look but was in a hurry as wife is canning and needed more lids.
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How are folks using their PTFE liners? Sandwiched between the jar and the lid? Or as the lid with the ring.
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ckdistills wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:14 pm How are folks using their PTFE liners? Sandwiched between the jar and the lid? Or as the lid with the ring.
I do both, depending on whether I'm storing or aging. If I'm storing things like SPD or Apple Pie, the liner goes underneath the normal lid. If I'm glass aging, I just put the liner under the ring and leave the ring loose.
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Found these Ball stainless steel mason jar lids.

https://www.ballmasonjars.com/products/ ... 76670.html

For those in Canada my local Walmart has them, little more pricey but if you drink more you save more.......

The gasket is crap for ethanol but with gasket removed I got a liquid seal with just PTFE tape on the glass threads. No drips with upside down 1 liter.

Tolerances seem pretty good, but I I was also using a Ball wide mouth mason jar. I'm still planning on solid/round PTFE gaskets, just seems it will be easier.

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Not to bad for almost 5 months.
On par with small barrels.
You obviously need to add the oak in the jar but looks a decent option.
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Swedish Pride wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:30 pm IMG20231219210114.jpg
Not to bad for almost 5 months.
On par with small barrels.
You obviously need to add the oak in the jar but looks a decent option.
Still holding up well? I'm curious how tight the lid is on... Is it just sitting on top of the jar using its own weight or is it tightly twisted on there?

This thread has got me really interested.
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Because I'm not great with the router I left a bit of a lip that just happens to be catching the threads.
It's by no means watertight, I reckon I'd do as well just resting loosely on it
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Swedish Pride wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:34 pm Because I'm not great with the router I left a bit of a lip that just happens to be catching the threads.
It's by no means watertight, I reckon I'd do as well just resting loosely on it
I like your method. Considering doing something similar when I age my stuff...

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I like it, I use it more for kegs than jars as I don't age in jars, this was only an experiment
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Swedish Pride wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:49 am I like it, I use it more for kegs than jars as I don't age in jars, this was only an experimentIMG20230812122452.jpg
I have a gallon mini keg that I could probably do the same in. Where did you get the block of oak from? Is it a stave?

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Barrel head actually, I was going to use a stave but sbb pointed out to me that the head is flat so easier to work with....
Not the sharpest tool in the shed me :oops:
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