Well well well what do we have here?
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- Canuckwoods
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Well well well what do we have here?
I just bought a brew pot and this controller was thrown in. The guy I bought it from told me "The controller was based off of the ardbir open source project here: https://github.com/wizbrewery/wiz-Open- ... pen-ArdBir" does anyone know anything about it? I defiantly want to check it out before I plug it in.
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
I can’t comment on the functionality of it Canuck other than it uses a SSR so presumably it is a Time proportional Power controller similar to the Aurber ones . …. But then again , it may be a home made PID controller with a very ling time period making it totally unsuitable for anything other than mashing .
However , it is a total nightmere when it comes to electrical safety .
It is basically all constructed with push-on “bread-boarding” connectors which I would never trust to stay connected in a pink fit . Also those leads have really thin insulation totally unsuitable to be in a mains cable environment .
They are all wrapped and intertwined around each other .
It’s the worst birds nest I’ve seen for a while .
Guys that create projects like this often are great coders and can integrate modules to do amazing things but have zero training or thought to practical construction and safety .
Of most concern , I see no earth/ground cabling.
While it might be a well functioning project , I’d bin it unless you are able to totally rebuild it in a safe and secure manner with all cabling and components soldered together and the cables neatly bundled and segregated from the mains wiring .
Like what the fuck is this ? An Integrated circuit with a couple of wires hanging on it floating around in the case waiting to fling around and touch something it shouldn’t .
It should be soldered to a piece of circuit board (Vero-board is great ) and screwed to the case so it is secure
However , it is a total nightmere when it comes to electrical safety .
It is basically all constructed with push-on “bread-boarding” connectors which I would never trust to stay connected in a pink fit . Also those leads have really thin insulation totally unsuitable to be in a mains cable environment .
They are all wrapped and intertwined around each other .
It’s the worst birds nest I’ve seen for a while .
Guys that create projects like this often are great coders and can integrate modules to do amazing things but have zero training or thought to practical construction and safety .
Of most concern , I see no earth/ground cabling.
While it might be a well functioning project , I’d bin it unless you are able to totally rebuild it in a safe and secure manner with all cabling and components soldered together and the cables neatly bundled and segregated from the mains wiring .
Like what the fuck is this ? An Integrated circuit with a couple of wires hanging on it floating around in the case waiting to fling around and touch something it shouldn’t .
It should be soldered to a piece of circuit board (Vero-board is great ) and screwed to the case so it is secure
My recommended goto .
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
- Canuckwoods
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
I agree the workmanship/safety is "suspect" to use a nice word. I am hoping to rebuild it but really need a plan so was hoping someone would recognize it and point me in the right direction.
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
I’m curious too . Will have a look on my PC later today .
My recommended goto .
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
- Yummyrum
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
It does look like a very capable Mashing controller .
It doesn’t have any power controller ability .
I couldn't see any specific wiring diagrams for it …. but I may not have been looking hard enough .
A quick and easy way to save it might be to keep the SSR and scrap the rest and replace it with an Auber DSPR1 if you simply want a Power controller , or DSPR400 or similar if you also want all the mashing features .
It doesn’t have any power controller ability .
I couldn't see any specific wiring diagrams for it …. but I may not have been looking hard enough .
A quick and easy way to save it might be to keep the SSR and scrap the rest and replace it with an Auber DSPR1 if you simply want a Power controller , or DSPR400 or similar if you also want all the mashing features .
My recommended goto .
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
- Saltbush Bill
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
I'm no lectricity geek but my first thought was " f#*k what a birds nest.
It's a prize winner in that category for sure
For free it's still a bargain if you can reconfigure it to a safe standard.
It's a prize winner in that category for sure
For free it's still a bargain if you can reconfigure it to a safe standard.
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
Looks like it Yummy.
What confuses me is it appears the original heat sink isn't being used.
There's nothing connected to it. Only some zip ties holding heat sink to the box?
The SSR and heatsink being used is sealed inside the box without a cooling fan.
My 2 cents worth.
Start by disassembling almost everything and turn it into a pile of useable parts.
Then build what's needed.
Trying to reverse engineer what's already been done looks difficult, even for my cluttered mind.
What confuses me is it appears the original heat sink isn't being used.
There's nothing connected to it. Only some zip ties holding heat sink to the box?
The SSR and heatsink being used is sealed inside the box without a cooling fan.
My 2 cents worth.
Start by disassembling almost everything and turn it into a pile of useable parts.
Then build what's needed.
Trying to reverse engineer what's already been done looks difficult, even for my cluttered mind.
Re: Well well well what do we have here?
That SSR looks like it's been cooked. I don't believe I would plug that thing in. I've built several controllers with Auber components that I would recommend highly. Any of their products in the DSPR series are good for our hobby.
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
Ok, so it's all agreed that it's a mickey mouse piece of crap. Can someone point me to some good plans for a 240v controller using these parts?
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
Using the existing SSRCanuckwoods wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:23 am Ok, so it's all agreed that it's a mickey mouse piece of crap. Can someone point me to some good plans for a 240v controller using these parts?
https://www.google.com/search?q=auber+D ... ent=safari
My recommended goto .
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
- Canuckwoods
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
After much digging and searching I belive this is what I have.
https://www.open-electronics.org/the-pe ... r-project/
https://www.open-electronics.org/the-pe ... r-project/
- Canuckwoods
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Re: Well well well what do we have here?
So parts that I have
SainSmart Mega 2560 https://www.sainsmart.com/products/mega ... compatible
LCD 2004A Module https://vegaprocessors.in/blog/lcd-2004 ... hejas-soc/
4 relay module https://www.arduinolearning.com/code/5- ... e_vignette
so what can I make
SainSmart Mega 2560 https://www.sainsmart.com/products/mega ... compatible
LCD 2004A Module https://vegaprocessors.in/blog/lcd-2004 ... hejas-soc/
4 relay module https://www.arduinolearning.com/code/5- ... e_vignette
so what can I make