My first full size setup

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My first full size setup

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Been running a 5 gal pot forever. Got me a 20 gallon with a 5 gallon thumper. Running a 3/4 inch 30ft worm. Just trying to figure out if I want solder elbows to the ends or bend em for the 55gal drum Im gonna put it in. Yall got any good recommendations on a good way to leakproof the spout end coming outta the drum when I put it in? Right now I use caulk on my plastic bucket but didnt know if there was something better when its a metal drum
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Stainless bulkhead fitting

https://a.co/d/cnNTzZD
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Bolverk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:20 pm Stainless bulkhead fitting

https://a.co/d/cnNTzZD
Ive used bulkheads to thread hose onto but never to run pipe through. How does the water stay contained in the hole the pipe goes through? Id think there be the slightest gap that would let water find its way through
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Thes bulkheads have inside and outside threads, so the 1" outer clamps the bulkhead tight. But if you use thread tape or pipe dope on the 3/4 threads of the coil and thread that to the inner threads it shouldnt leak either... effectively the inside and outside are isolated from each other
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I'd recommend something like this for a water tight seal.
And use a 90' fitting to get the end of the worm lined up to go straight out.
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Bolverk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 5:29 pm Thes bulkheads have inside and outside threads, so the 1" outer clamps the bulkhead tight. But if you use thread tape or pipe dope on the 3/4 threads of the coil and thread that to the inner threads it shouldnt leak either... effectively the inside and outside are isolated from each other
So if Im understanding this. Even though the pipe aint threaded the dope on the inside threads will still do the job?
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00Buck wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:01 pm
So if Im understanding this. Even though the pipe aint threaded the dope on the inside threads will still do the job?
Well no you'd need to soldier on one of these to the coil to thread into to bulkhead
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Bolverk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:12 pm
00Buck wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:01 pm
So if Im understanding this. Even though the pipe aint threaded the dope on the inside threads will still do the job?
Well no you'd need to soldier on one of these to the coil to thread into to bulkhead

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That makes tons more sense. I was wondering how that was supposed to work. I bet its a pain to get the measurements right to be able to thread that right
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shadylane wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 5:34 pm I'd recommend something like this for a water tight seal.
And use a 90' fitting to get the end of the worm lined up to go straight out.
Whats that fitting called?
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A simple 90 degree elbow
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shadylane wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:01 pm A simple 90 degree elbow
That black plastic/pvc looking fitting sure doesnt look like 90 degrees
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00Buck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:47 am
shadylane wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:01 pm A simple 90 degree elbow
That black plastic/pvc looking fitting sure doesnt look like 90 degrees
My guess is Shady meant , solder a 90° elbow on the bottom of the worm so go through the bucket and use one of those water cable glands to secure and seal it
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Yummyrum wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:08 am
00Buck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:47 am
shadylane wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:01 pm A simple 90 degree elbow
That black plastic/pvc looking fitting sure doesnt look like 90 degrees
My guess is Shady meant , solder a 90° elbow on the bottom of the worm so go through the bucket and use one of those water cable glands to secure and seal it IMG_1854.jpeg
I kinda figured something was missing there lol. A cable gland. I appreciate that
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Well I learned what a cable gland is just now what I saw seems a lot more expense then what's needed. No need for stainless, buy a copper male threaded fitting that matches the plastic bulkhead fitting. Do 4 wraps of Teflon . Position that near the hole you made for the bulkhead. Since you want to use a large barrel I would keep the nut on the outside of the barrel. Use both gaskets inside and outside.Then screw in a fitting (using Teflon) that works for garden hose or regular threads if you're adding PVC pipe or the like.
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Tammuz wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:50 am Well I learned what a cable gland is just now what I saw seems a lot more expense then what's needed. No need for stainless, buy a copper male threaded fitting that matches the plastic bulkhead fitting. Do 4 wraps of Teflon . Position that near the hole you made for the bulkhead. Since you want to use a large barrel I would keep the nut on the outside of the barrel. Use both gaskets inside and outside.Then screw in a fitting (using Teflon) that works for garden hose or regular threads if you're adding PVC pipe or the like.
Yeah Im making all this insanely more complicated than I need to. Theres so many options to get the job done and all of them make my wanting to use caulk or JB weld seem redneck as all hell
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JB will work. The first time I used it I was driving up to Yosemite and my bottom flywheel flew off and took off half of my crankshaft. I had to get up there for a job. All I had was JB weld. I put that on the harmonic balancer and on my crankshaft, put it as level as I could. No wobble.
It worked for probably 20,000 miles and I sold it so who knows how much longer it lasted.

But if this is a serious hobby, do it right the first time. Solder on that male adapter to your copper line. It's good for 5 years. Then just replace the gaskets.
That drum will get near boiling temps...
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Tammuz wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:45 am JB will work. The first time I used it I was driving up to Yosemite and my bottom flywheel flew off and took off half of my crankshaft. I had to get up there for a job. All I had was JB weld. I put that on the harmonic balancer and on my crankshaft, put it as level as I could. No wobble.
It worked for probably 20,000 miles and I sold it so who knows how much longer it lasted.

But if this is a serious hobby, do it right the first time. Solder on that male adapter to your copper line. It's good for 5 years. Then just replace the gaskets.
That drum will get near boiling temps...
Thats what Ill do. But let me ask you this. Wouldnt the liquid make contact with the plastic in the fitting at some point? The threads on the copper only go so deep
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00Buck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:46 am
Tammuz wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:45 am JB will work. The first time I used it I was driving up to Yosemite and my bottom flywheel flew off and took off half of my crankshaft. I had to get up there for a job. All I had was JB weld. I put that on the harmonic balancer and on my crankshaft, put it as level as I could. No wobble.
It worked for probably 20,000 miles and I sold it so who knows how much longer it lasted.

But if this is a serious hobby, do it right the first time. Solder on that male adapter to your copper line. It's good for 5 years. Then just replace the gaskets.
That drum will get near boiling temps...
Thats what Ill do. But let me ask you this. Wouldnt the liquid make contact with the plastic in the fitting at some point? The threads on the copper only go so deep
This is why I recommended the stainless one lol
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That black plastic is rated above 200°c. The rubber gaskets will age on you and get brittle. Mine were a 1.25 for 2. If sourcing stainless is easy grab one, but stay away from sealants and epoxy if you can. It's not all that serious I just hate fixing things more than once.
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Tammuz wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:24 pm That black plastic is rated above 200°c. The rubber gaskets will age on you and get brittle. Mine were a 1.25 for 2. If sourcing stainless is easy grab one, but stay away from sealants and epoxy if you can. It's not all that serious I just hate fixing things more than once.
Im a millwright. Fixing something is just a part of the day lol
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