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Re: 8" plates
In general curves are preferred to corners when dealing with fluid dynamics. It might be that there's an slight efficiency drop compared to using round caps. Maybe you can't just compare the circumference. Perhaps you need to have the open areas on the caps aligned with the slots and not put any on or near the corners where the distance from slot to cap is greatest.
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Re: 8" plates
The SS buckets can in today, and there's change in plans, I decided it would look like shit.
I'll try using a corny keg for the column. If that doesn't work, then I'll order more copper.
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Re: 8" plates
Shady if you use copper will you use 8” copper pipe of try and fabricate a cylinder from a sheet of copper?
It would be very difficult trying to make a perfectly round diameter cylinder so the plates will seal I think,
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Re: 8" plates
I've searched for 8" copper pipe and haven't found any, so I'd use a 12" X 24" copper and roll it into a cylinder.
The plates would be soldered in so there's no leakage.
The plates would be soldered in so there's no leakage.
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At the moment I'm leaning towards using a corny keg.
There's several of them in the scrap pile that already have holes and assorted fittings from being used as thumpers and other stuff.
There's several of them in the scrap pile that already have holes and assorted fittings from being used as thumpers and other stuff.
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They do make 8” copper pipe, but I can not seem to find any online either. You could try ringing a big copper tube supplier, maybe it’s more of a special order type thing,
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They do make 8” copper pipe, but I can not seem to find any online either. You could try ringing a big copper tube supplier, maybe it’s more of a special order type thing,
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Re: 8" plates
8" would be special order and crazy expensive. 
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Re: 8" plates
Gonna need to win Lotto to go down that path.
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Re: 8" plates
I haven't forgot the 8" build.
Christmas is getting in the way and there's 3 generations of offspring that thinks my time should spent on them.
Once I get back to work, the first job is figure out the shell. Started out to use SS buckets but decided that was too flimsy and ugly.
Another option is to sacrifice a couple corny kegs, they're the right size and durable but would look utilitarian.
Or I could drag out the hammer and go full blown copper porn.
Another question is whether to go modular and make 8" tri-clamp ferrules or permanently solder the parts together or use copper flanges and bolts.
It would be nice to be able to disassemble the 8 incher so I could experiment and modify the plates if I want to.
Christmas is getting in the way and there's 3 generations of offspring that thinks my time should spent on them.
Once I get back to work, the first job is figure out the shell. Started out to use SS buckets but decided that was too flimsy and ugly.
Another option is to sacrifice a couple corny kegs, they're the right size and durable but would look utilitarian.
Or I could drag out the hammer and go full blown copper porn.
Another question is whether to go modular and make 8" tri-clamp ferrules or permanently solder the parts together or use copper flanges and bolts.
It would be nice to be able to disassemble the 8 incher so I could experiment and modify the plates if I want to.
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Re: 8" plates
Make it modular, maybe a combination of 1, 2 and 3 plate moduals, youll have a more versitile still and be able to run any combination/ number of plates.
Without soldering plates your biggest enemy is leakage between plate and column wall, but you already know that.
Without soldering plates your biggest enemy is leakage between plate and column wall, but you already know that.
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I agree with Salty and think modular is the way to go, as for the shell I would definitely fabricate it from Copper.
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Re: 8" plates
Maybe build it in three sections, this way I could add more plate sections if needed..Copperhead road wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 3:25 am I agree with Salty and think modular is the way to go, as for the shell I would definitely fabricate it from Copper.
Looks like I'd need 4 ferules and 2 clamps or make some flanges out of the 1/4" copper plate laying around.
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Re: 8" plates
Here is a current price for 8" type L from Ferguson
Pretty costly
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Re: 8" plates
$370 per foot.Windy City wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:31 am Here is a current price for 8" type L from Ferguson
Pretty costly
Plan B is to buy a 24" x 36" sheet of copper to roll my own cylinder and have enough left over to build the end caps.
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That price is outrageous, the dollars really jump up with the bigger diameter.shadylane wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:37 pm$370 per foot.Windy City wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:31 am Here is a current price for 8" type L from Ferguson
Pretty costly![]()
Plan B is to buy a 24" x 36" sheet of copper to roll my own cylinder and have enough left over to build the end caps.
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This isn't going to be a cheap build. I figure $300 in copper and another $400 in fittings to make it sexy.
On a side note.
I once built a 12"ish dia sieve plate out of very thin copper foil. It needed copper wires soldered to the foil for structural strength.
It was butt ugly and a pain in the ass trying to keep the plate perfectly level.
On a side note.
I once built a 12"ish dia sieve plate out of very thin copper foil. It needed copper wires soldered to the foil for structural strength.
It was butt ugly and a pain in the ass trying to keep the plate perfectly level.
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Re: 8" plates
Are you going to just start off with 2 plates Shady?shadylane wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:08 pm This isn't going to be a cheap build. I figure $300 in copper and another $400 in fittings to make it sexy.
On a side note.
I once built a 12"ish dia sieve plate out of very thin copper foil. It needed copper wires soldered to the foil for structural strength.
It was butt ugly and a pain in the ass trying to keep the plate perfectly level.
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Re: 8" plates
Yes 2 plates.
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Re: 8" plates
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$370 per foot.
Plan B is to buy a 24" x 36" sheet of copper to roll my own cylinder and have enough left over to build the end caps.
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Are you going to weld, braze or solder it?
I have always wanted to roll my own copper to make larger columns.
I will definitely be watching this.
On a side note I have two ten footers of 6" type L that I have been saving for something special
$370 per foot.
Plan B is to buy a 24" x 36" sheet of copper to roll my own cylinder and have enough left over to build the end caps.
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Are you going to weld, braze or solder it?
I have always wanted to roll my own copper to make larger columns.
I will definitely be watching this.
On a side note I have two ten footers of 6" type L that I have been saving for something special
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Re: 8" plates
I have always wanted to roll my own copper to make larger columns.
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Me too, ive been obsessed with the idea of a 3 chamber but there aren't any great small scale options. So the working idea was to get a bunch of 12" weld ferrules and some sheet and make my own 12x18 chambers.
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Me too, ive been obsessed with the idea of a 3 chamber but there aren't any great small scale options. So the working idea was to get a bunch of 12" weld ferrules and some sheet and make my own 12x18 chambers.
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12 x 18? Or 18 x 12? 12 high better for your limited height no?
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12" diameter x 18" tall. Ive seriously considered 12x12 because they are readily available, but that would only be like 3 working gals per chamber
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12" d x 18" tall. Ive seriously considered 12x12 because they are readily available, but that would only be like 3 working gals per chamber
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Re: 8" plates
Things I just ordered to build the plate section.
1ft X 10ft X 18 gage (1mm) thick copper sheet. $375 plus shipping
Two SS 8" tri-clamp ferules $50
Two copper 3" ferules and clamp on glass windows. $180
1ft X 10ft X 18 gage (1mm) thick copper sheet. $375 plus shipping
Two SS 8" tri-clamp ferules $50
Two copper 3" ferules and clamp on glass windows. $180
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Re: 8" plates
Here's a question, my original plan was to have 2 plates in a common shell.
Since I only plan on needing 2 plates this would save on ferules, clamps and welding.
Or should I go full modular and have each plate individual?
Since I only plan on needing 2 plates this would save on ferules, clamps and welding.
Or should I go full modular and have each plate individual?
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Re: 8" plates
Just a thought, but how many times would you ever run just one plate? Maybe build one section as 2 plates and then you could build single plate sections to add if desired.
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Re: 8" plates
I agree but two individual plates would be sexier, even if it means two more ferules and clamps.
Most likely the decision will be made after I try tig welding copper sheet to a SS ferule .
Here's what I'll try if it doesn't work then plan B.
Most likely the decision will be made after I try tig welding copper sheet to a SS ferule .
Here's what I'll try if it doesn't work then plan B.
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