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qball wrote:Dump it. You have to use all grain, sorry.

roger 5x5. Oh well, lessons learned. Thanks

11:30 tonight will be 96 hours and sweetfeed ferment still working hard, smells like a real strong beer.

Just getting to this post. Lots of recent activity.

For an air lock... you might try sealing the lid (the ta keep them damn fruit flys out), then having a short hose coming out from a nipple attached through the lid. The outlet end shoved down into a jar with water in it. Works like a champ.
I have a 50 gal drum that I ferment in. I screwed a nipple into the small outlet cap. Attached a short hose to the nipple. Cut a hole in the lid of a mason jar the size of my hose. Filled the jar with water and shoved the hose down in it... works like a champ!!! Been using it a couple years now. Tip from MK...

Wiorev, you might want to hang on to it a little while, I noticed that Odin has drank it that ways and it seems like he said it smoothed out after a couple of months, and, you can use it for a sacrificial run one day on a new still (gives you a reason to build another one) the all grain does make a very nice whiskey though. First time I made this I added to the recipe and the yeast weren't too happy, next time I stuck with the recipe and damnitt boy that's some tasty whiskey

"but what actually is 'sweetfeed'?"
grain with molasse

Key word in dunders post is grains! Buy them seperate and mix them then add molasses then you know what ya have?

some sweet feed has vitamins/minerals added also. and some has pellets thats not wanted..after reading what the vitamins/minerals "could be" Id also suggest making your own.

2 6.5 gallon buckets
5 gallons distilled water in each
10# sugar each bucket
4 inchs at bottom Producer's Pride All Grain
1 pack 0.81 oz wiskey pure with ag in each
Day 6 and still shows no sign of slowing up and working good, Worked longer then my sugar wash with turbo's. Wow smells like a open keg of beer boiling in my face. I cant wait to run this and try it out.
1 bucket started at 1.08 and other at 1.07 and now both are at 1.00.0 Not much longer now!

Well its at just below 0.990 but I still get a bubble every 10 seconds or so, should I rack it now into another fermenter and let it settle a day or 2 befor running to clear and settle?

I bought this at tractor supply ,Please Tell me its ok


DuMOR® Pleasure Horse Feed is excellent for maintenance, early gestation, and horses with light to moderate work loads. It complements any type of hay and is comprised of nutritious pellets mixed with high-quality, wholesome grains. Perfect for horses that displike pellets and people who prefer to fee more traditional grain-based feeds.

Guaranteed Analysis:
CrudeProtein (min.) 12.00%, CrudeFat (min.) 3.00%, CrudeFiber (max.) 12.50%, Calcium (Ca) (min.) .75%, Calcium (Ca) (max.) 1.25%, Phosphorus(P) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (max.) .90%, Sodium (Na) (min.) .05%, Sodium (Na) (max.) .35%, Copper(Cu) (min.) 25.00ppm, Selenium (Se) (min.) .60ppm, Zinc (Zn) (min.) 90.00ppm, Vitamin A (min.) 2500IU/lb, Vitamin D3 (min.) 500IU/lb, Vitamin E (min.) 25IU/lb, Ruminant meat and bone meal free.

Feeding instructions:
Recommendations are in lb. of feed per head per day for an average 1000 lb horse, preferably over several small meals. Feed along with at least 1% of the horse's body weight in good quality hay or pasture (10 lb. hay for a 1000 lb. horse, more if horse is active or not over weight) The feeding quantities of both hay and concentrate should be adjusted according to activity level of the horse and the decisive body condition. Feeding rates may vary with age, size, tempermant, health status, climate, forage quality and activity level. Do not offer the concentrate free-choice. Changes in feeding rate should be made gradually to allow the digestive system to adjust. Always provide fresh, clean water.
Mature maintenance, Early/mid gestation: 4.0-7.0 (mature horses).
Light work: 5.0-8.0 (mature horses).
Moderate to Hard Work: 7.0-12.0 (mature horses).

vinperRumrunner Posts: 87Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 2:08 pm


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ECDRN, fg is low enough to rack off and let settle, give it a few days or so and you will be ready to Put some heat under it!

Thank you sir!

ECDRN wrote:Well its at just below 0.990 but I still get a bubble every 10 seconds or so, should I rack it now into another fermenter and let it settle a day or 2 befor running to clear and settle?

Most of what you are seeing is probably just residual CO2 slowly escaping from the trub... Rack it off...

vinper wrote:I bought this at tractor supply ,Please Tell me its ok


DuMOR® Pleasure Horse Feed is excellent for maintenance, early gestation, and horses with light to moderate work loads. It complements any type of hay and is comprised of nutritious pellets mixed with high-quality, wholesome grains. Perfect for horses that displike pellets and people who prefer to fee more traditional grain-based feeds.

Guaranteed Analysis:
CrudeProtein (min.) 12.00%, CrudeFat (min.) 3.00%, CrudeFiber (max.) 12.50%, Calcium (Ca) (min.) .75%, Calcium (Ca) (max.) 1.25%, Phosphorus(P) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (max.) .90%, Sodium (Na) (min.) .05%, Sodium (Na) (max.) .35%, Copper(Cu) (min.) 25.00ppm, Selenium (Se) (min.) .60ppm, Zinc (Zn) (min.) 90.00ppm, Vitamin A (min.) 2500IU/lb, Vitamin D3 (min.) 500IU/lb, Vitamin E (min.) 25IU/lb, Ruminant meat and bone meal free.

Feeding instructions:
Recommendations are in lb. of feed per head per day for an average 1000 lb horse, preferably over several small meals. Feed along with at least 1% of the horse's body weight in good quality hay or pasture (10 lb. hay for a 1000 lb. horse, more if horse is active or not over weight) The feeding quantities of both hay and concentrate should be adjusted according to activity level of the horse and the decisive body condition. Feeding rates may vary with age, size, tempermant, health status, climate, forage quality and activity level. Do not offer the concentrate free-choice. Changes in feeding rate should be made gradually to allow the digestive system to adjust. Always provide fresh, clean water.
Mature maintenance, Early/mid gestation: 4.0-7.0 (mature horses).
Light work: 5.0-8.0 (mature horses).
Moderate to Hard Work: 7.0-12.0 (mature horses).

vinperRumrunner Posts: 87Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 2:08 pm


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NOT OK...

It has pellets in it. You need this...

http://www.tractorsupply.com/horse-feed ... oduct_tabs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

vinper wrote:I bought this at tractor supply ,Please Tell me its ok


DuMOR® Pleasure Horse Feed is excellent for maintenance, early gestation, and horses with light to moderate work loads. It complements any type of hay and is comprised of nutritious pellets mixed with high-quality, wholesome grains. Perfect for horses that displike pellets and people who prefer to fee more traditional grain-based feeds.

Guaranteed Analysis:
CrudeProtein (min.) 12.00%, CrudeFat (min.) 3.00%, CrudeFiber (max.) 12.50%, Calcium (Ca) (min.) .75%, Calcium (Ca) (max.) 1.25%, Phosphorus(P) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (max.) .90%, Sodium (Na) (min.) .05%, Sodium (Na) (max.) .35%, Copper(Cu) (min.) 25.00ppm, Selenium (Se) (min.) .60ppm, Zinc (Zn) (min.) 90.00ppm, Vitamin A (min.) 2500IU/lb, Vitamin D3 (min.) 500IU/lb, Vitamin E (min.) 25IU/lb, Ruminant meat and bone meal free.

Feeding instructions:
Recommendations are in lb. of feed per head per day for an average 1000 lb horse, preferably over several small meals. Feed along with at least 1% of the horse's body weight in good quality hay or pasture (10 lb. hay for a 1000 lb. horse, more if horse is active or not over weight) The feeding quantities of both hay and concentrate should be adjusted according to activity level of the horse and the decisive body condition. Feeding rates may vary with age, size, tempermant, health status, climate, forage quality and activity level. Do not offer the concentrate free-choice. Changes in feeding rate should be made gradually to allow the digestive system to adjust. Always provide fresh, clean water.
Mature maintenance, Early/mid gestation: 4.0-7.0 (mature horses).
Light work: 5.0-8.0 (mature horses).
Moderate to Hard Work: 7.0-12.0 (mature horses).

vinperRumrunner Posts: 87Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 2:08 pm


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I found the Producer's Pride All Grain at Tractor Supply and it just says all grain on front of the bag. No 10 or 12% just all grain. It has molasis in it with corn and oats and best of all no pellets. If you have a tractor supp;y in your area hit them up. The Producer's Pride All Grain dose not say sweetfeed on the bag BUT it has molasis in it same as sweet feed. Hope this helps ya out cause I am learning also.

Racked it off today. It was 0.980 and guess I will let it set till monday to settle. Did make something new for this. I took a 2ft piece of stainless tube that is about the size of 2inch pipe and drilled holes all around the bottom to about 2 inchs up and wraped it with copper screen and pushed it down to bottom of bucket then put my racking cain down in it and wow no grain or anything while doing the transfer. Worked great. Cant wait till monday now. Going to start a second gen after run. Will let you know how it turns out monday night. Hell might even make a video of it.

Did my run yesterday and out of 9 gallons I got 2 qrts heads 6 qrts good and 3 qrts tails 10 oz of forshots. Leting it air now but took a samp today and this is some good stuff. Goint to add some oak to 5 jars. started at 75% and I cut it off at 40%. It was about 210 then.

qball wrote:

vinper wrote:I bought this at tractor supply ,Please Tell me its ok


DuMOR® Pleasure Horse Feed is excellent for maintenance, early gestation, and horses with light to moderate work loads. It complements any type of hay and is comprised of nutritious pellets mixed with high-quality, wholesome grains. Perfect for horses that displike pellets and people who prefer to fee more traditional grain-based feeds.

Guaranteed Analysis:
CrudeProtein (min.) 12.00%, CrudeFat (min.) 3.00%, CrudeFiber (max.) 12.50%, Calcium (Ca) (min.) .75%, Calcium (Ca) (max.) 1.25%, Phosphorus(P) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (min.) .40%, Salt (Nacl) (max.) .90%, Sodium (Na) (min.) .05%, Sodium (Na) (max.) .35%, Copper(Cu) (min.) 25.00ppm, Selenium (Se) (min.) .60ppm, Zinc (Zn) (min.) 90.00ppm, Vitamin A (min.) 2500IU/lb, Vitamin D3 (min.) 500IU/lb, Vitamin E (min.) 25IU/lb, Ruminant meat and bone meal free.

Feeding instructions:
Recommendations are in lb. of feed per head per day for an average 1000 lb horse, preferably over several small meals. Feed along with at least 1% of the horse's body weight in good quality hay or pasture (10 lb. hay for a 1000 lb. horse, more if horse is active or not over weight) The feeding quantities of both hay and concentrate should be adjusted according to activity level of the horse and the decisive body condition. Feeding rates may vary with age, size, tempermant, health status, climate, forage quality and activity level. Do not offer the concentrate free-choice. Changes in feeding rate should be made gradually to allow the digestive system to adjust. Always provide fresh, clean water.
Mature maintenance, Early/mid gestation: 4.0-7.0 (mature horses).
Light work: 5.0-8.0 (mature horses).
Moderate to Hard Work: 7.0-12.0 (mature horses).

vinperRumrunner Posts: 87Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 2:08 pm


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NOT OK...

It has pellets in it. You need this...

http://www.tractorsupply.com/horse-feed ... oduct_tabs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

I have some of this going now:
http://www.tractorsupply.com/feed-solut ... b--2427127" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Will this not work? I thought that's what was meant by "sweet feed". Smells pretty good in the primary.

If you read back through this long thread. You will find pallets are undesirable. They usually but not always contain things like alfalfa and floor sweepings. Neither of which ate good for the flavor or add much to the ferment. And they can be down right nasty in the bottom of the fermenter when it done. I know my first was with pellets.

It may or may not turn out good? Mine turned out good. But after seeing what was left in the fermenter. I gave the rest of it to a friend for deer food. If you already have it going and its working. Mite as well run it. See what you get. Some use it with no problems. But if you had an all grain mix no pellets. You would get more of the grain flavors you are looking for. Not alfalfa flavors.

Yes, what Prariepiss said. It may or may not work out in the end.

From the link you just posted, the description still says it contains pellets. Different manufacturers label different variations of the products sweetfeed. What makes it 'sweet' feed is that it contains molasses with the grains... which is... uhh... sweet. LOL

What the many many responses say on this topic is to try and get the type of sweet feed that DOESN'T have pellets in it, because like Prairiepiss states, it can possibly make the product undesirable. (Some have described it as HOT from the alfalfa). Some may no actually label the bag as sweetfeed. In the example I posted above, the Producer's Pride product is labeled "All Grain".

If this doesn't work, ask for an ALL GRAIN sweetfeed that doesn't contain pellets. It should only contain oats, corn, barley and molasses.

It should only contain oats, corn, barley and molasses.

I will disagree with this. This depends on the area you are in. And the available grains. My area its many times corn oats and wheat. What you would want is just grains with molasses. Without mold inhibitors.

Or you can just make your own by mixing what ever grains you can get your hands on with some molasses.

Yes, you are correct... sorry.

The idea is that should contain products recognizeable as grains versus grains + molasses + pellets or ground up minerals.

I saw one that had ground up peanut shells in it.

I saw one that had ground up peanut shells in it.

The stuff I had. What was left in the fermenter looked and felt like sand. Tell me that didn't come off the floor?

Or ate they using it as a weight filler? Either way it turned me off quick.

My sweet feed with pellets had ... genuine pellets. With minerals and lots of alfalfa. Gave a sludge at the bottom of the bucket. Still have some supplies left. But now my daughters pick out the pellets before I "sweet feed" again. They like to do that. I like it that they do that.

The Alfalfa gave a REALLY hot taste to my whiskey. But strangely that hot taste went away after a few months. Giving me a great oats/corn/barley whiskey.

Odin.

Sometimes its known as Wet COB or Sweet COB

Has anyone ran this through a still after only being in the fermenter for 3 days? Another recipe I saw said 3 days.

klemsontigers7 wrote:Has anyone ran this through a still after only being in the fermenter for 3 days? Another recipe I saw said 3 days.

reason being... time is limited

klemsontigers7 wrote:

klemsontigers7 wrote:Has anyone ran this through a still after only being in the fermenter for 3 days? Another recipe I saw said 3 days.

reason being... time is limited

Speed is not your friend. There are lots of examples of speed = bad on these forums. If it's not done you can scorch it and cause a burnt flavor in your product. Also you will get less yield if it's not completely done fermenting. You will have more foam and a chance of puking. Roll the dice and take your chances or wait it out and use the insurance of a few extra days rest.

Good luck

Durace11 wrote:

klemsontigers7 wrote:

klemsontigers7 wrote:Has anyone ran this through a still after only being in the fermenter for 3 days? Another recipe I saw said 3 days.

reason being... time is limited

Speed is not your friend. There are lots of examples of speed = bad on these forums. If it's not done you can scorch it and cause a burnt flavor in your product. Also you will get less yield if it's not completely done fermenting. You will have more foam and a chance of puking. Roll the dice and take your chances or wait it out and use the insurance of a few extra days rest.

Good luck

+1

Let it finish. If you need to let it sit a week or two before your next shot at running it. Rack it to a secondary fermenter. And it will be ready for you when you get time to run it.

Is Nutrena 12 swwet feed OK? This is the only sweet feed the farm store had.

Also, at 1lb of sugar per gallon is this brew only going to be around 5% ABV to start with? Or is there that much sugar in the sweet feed? I don't suppose the grain part is mashing during fermentation.