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Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:41 am
by frodo
from the picture..looks like the older picture..

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:51 am
by likker liker
If it is the one without the tabs, then you can use it by just removing the guts. If not and you have the tabs, then it should be replaced. We go over that when you know for sure

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:19 pm
by frodo
ok,,i pick it up tomorrow,,,meeting in the parking lot tractor supply

way back in them days, i used to meet in parking lots,
damn sure wasnt beer kegs we were trading..LOL
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Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:27 pm
by likker liker
yah me to, crags list has me meeting people all over. Overall not bad when you can buy and sell in the open without dark sunglasses

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:30 pm
by cranky
Frodi, I'd wait until I had the keg in hand to figure the rest out.

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:49 pm
by cranky
Today was UFO day here at Cranky's place. Yesterday I got the support tubes soldered on to the UFO and today I did some cleanup ad fitting of the condenser. I sized the holes for the cooling tubes to pass through and soldered copper tubes to the ends of the corrugated tube...then I re-soldered the connections...then I re-soldered them again. It seems to be holding now the next step is to solder it into the UFO. Here is the picture of it being pressure tested.
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Here is the UFO
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I also cleaned up the piece I made to adapt from the shotgun down to the short liebig and than I did this.
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Which made me think of making this
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A doomsday device alarm clock with a nixie tube number display. I think I could run the corrugated tube from one end to the other, add some blinking lights, maybe arduino controlled... :esmile:

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:01 pm
by frodo
what kind of torch are you using?

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:01 am
by likker liker
Wow cranky thats looking fantastic!

frodo
I use a surefire torch
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Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:27 am
by midwest shinner
You know you're a stiller when... you are setting your table and realize "Wow, these mugs and plates would make a sweet looking still." No really Cranky I love the ingenuity and inventiveness you've showed on this still, great freakin work man, I hope she runs like a dream for ya :thumbup:

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:28 am
by bearriver
frodo wrote:what kind of torch are you using?
I have the ts4000 and the ts8000. Those torches blow away every other propane torch I have tried. :thumbup:

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:20 am
by frodo
ohhhhhhh..thats why you are having problems with stuff falling apart

the kind of fitting that you are doing, you need a smaller/hotter flame

something like this.
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see the pen sized blue tip? i bet yours is bout the size of a nickel ?

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picked up my keg,
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Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:02 am
by bearriver
frodo wrote:ohhhhhhh..thats why you are having problems with stuff falling apart

the kind of fitting that you are doing, you need a smaller/hotter flame

something like this.
Nonsense. I don't know about cranky, but I soldered my 3 inch type L pipe in no time flat with a ts4000 propane torch from Home Depot. I also disassembled it to add a triclamp instead, revealing the solder flow... :ebiggrin:

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:42 am
by likker liker
frodo wrote:ohhhhhhh..thats why you are having problems with stuff falling apart

the kind of fitting that you are doing, you need a smaller/hotter flame

something like this.
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see the pen sized blue tip? i bet yours is bout the size of a nickel ?

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picked up my keg,
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I think you're right, that you have is much much better but it costs much more.

OK your keg I don't like that type to easy for the gasses to excape so here's what I'd do easy with your torch setup. 1001 ways to skin a cat

Stainless Steel Flange / Ferrule - 2 inch Diameter
you will need at least two of the ferrules
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I have used this fitting, in the past. It's a press fit, so you'll need to pound it on or something like but NOT hit it with a hammer or something hard , to easy to dent
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Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:46 am
by frodo
bearriver wrote:
frodo wrote:ohhhhhhh..thats why you are having problems with stuff falling apart

the kind of fitting that you are doing, you need a smaller/hotter flame

something like this.
Nonsense. I don't know about cranky, but I soldered my 3 inch type L pipe in no time flat with a ts4000 propane torch from Home Depot. I also disassembled it to add a triclamp instead, revealing the solder flow... :ebiggrin:
i did not say it will not work, it does,

what i am saying, with a smaller flame one with a point not a rose bub

you can get into smaller places,heat just that area,then get out. without melting the solider on your other work.

i am not saying it does not work.

he is soldering copper next to copper he perviously soldered,I know the aggravation in that.

the aggravation that what is just soldered falls off, while soldering a different pipe.

that is what a large flame will do to you,

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:51 am
by frodo
so i need to take out the flange that is their and replace with different.

i can do that,,what is the o ring for

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:52 am
by likker liker
Frodo
you can use the o ring to seal it or there's a Teflon gasket also I've used both really no difference just cost

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:53 am
by likker liker
Keg to column seal

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:54 am
by likker liker
frodo wrote:so i need to take out the flange that is their and replace with different.

i can do that,,what is the o ring for
No it fits over the one thats on the keg

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:05 am
by frodo
got it, understand, thanks..i will order a couple of each

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:32 am
by likker liker
Also don't forget the clamp http://www.milehidistilling.com/product ... meter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:51 am
by frodo
from milhighditilling

sku 16628 2 each 7.49 $14.98
sku 16622 2 each 6.79 $13.58
sku 16634 2 each 0.69 $ 1.38 $29.94 total.+Tax/shipping

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:06 am
by likker liker
Very good, your on the way to being your own distiller :clap:

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:15 am
by frodo
not yet,,$15.60 shipping on a $29.00 order...i dont freaking think so



got some googling to do


Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:23 am
by likker liker
Wow they've really upped there prices.
Well you know what you need, there's a few supplier, Amazon.com has this stuff also

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:36 am
by frodo
hilly billy shipping is 6 bucks....stuff little higher but you save on he shipping

cking amazon

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:44 am
by likker liker
I've used hillbilly before, just a few times. No problem with them

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:25 pm
by likker liker
Check out the buy all three, that would work you just need two ferrules
Amazon
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Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:37 pm
by cranky
midwest shinner wrote:You know you're a stiller when... you are setting your table and realize "Wow, these mugs and plates would make a sweet looking still." No really Cranky I love the ingenuity and inventiveness you've showed on this still, great freakin work man, I hope she runs like a dream for ya :thumbup:
Thank you Midwest Shiner, I am getting close but I ran out of solder once again today, and can't get to Lowe's, the planning department told me 3 weeks and they'll get back with me on the porch so I am going to go try to finish the green bean trellis and start working on the garage. I'll get a few more pictures up in a bit though.

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:46 pm
by cranky
Frodo, My keg has that same fitting, I just made an easy flange for my setups and use an everlasting gasket made from a copper ring wrapped in PTFE and never had a problem with leaks, I have to give it an extra wrap every now and then but it works fine.

As far as torches, I have a cheap crappy propane torch that gets the job done but heat management can be an issue since depending on how you hold it the flame can be very small or very large without changing settings, but it would certainly be nice to have a better torch but my budget is gone and I still need more solder.

Re: Goofy things I do

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:56 pm
by frodo
i am going to make a flange on the copper, and buy a ss flange for the keg.

is the problem with leaking due to the notches? if so,, i dont see why they could not be filled in

then buffed smooth..


when you run out of flux, try some called C-Flux you might like it,,it pretins


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