So I have a question I have some ag backset should I use that as my dunder or could I use some citric acid in its place I've got this bucket full of molasses and I want to do it in one big ferment.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:38 pm
by Saltbush Bill
The recipe tells you what to do for the first ferment when you have no dunder.
If you do use AG dunder i cant vouch for what it might taste like. That is your choice though.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:31 pm
by Durhommer
Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:38 pm
The recipe tells you what to do for the first ferment when you have no dunder.
If you do use AG dunder i cant vouch for what it might taste like. That is your choice though.
Thanks sb I'll follow the recipe but one more? How much b vitamin should I use on a 25 gallon ferment and is this gonna foam up? I have a 30gallon fermenting vessel
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:40 pm
by Saltbush Bill
I just use one Vit B tab / capsual per 30L ......25 gal = 94.6 L..........dump 3 in that will do.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:47 pm
by Durhommer
Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:40 pm
I just use one Vit B tab / capsual per 30L ......25 gal = 94.6 L..........dump 3 in that will do.
Thanks for the info so here goes nothing 59 pounds on 25 gallon
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:21 pm
by NZChris
Durhommer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:31 pm
Thanks sb I'll follow the recipe but one more? How much b vitamin should I use on a 25 gallon ferment and is this gonna foam up? I have a 30gallon fermenting vessel
I advise against using a bubbler airlock because I had a geyser in my wash house the first time I put down a rum wash. It hit the ceiling and we were away for the weekend.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:30 am
by Saltbush Bill
Leave plenty of head space in the fermenter and it shouldn't be a problem.
The last one I did ran pretty hot and hard as it was in an insulated drum.....probably a bit to warm. It was about 170 L in size it didnt froth a lot. Frothing seems to depend on molasses here ..changes from batch to batch a bit.
This is what the last one looked like.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am
by Durhommer
Do you guys stir in your yeast or just leave it on top of the ferment
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:45 am
by Yummyrum
Sprinkle on top them put the lid on
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:17 pm
by Durhommer
Yummyrum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:45 am
Sprinkle on top them put the lid on
Thanks yummy
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:13 pm
by NZChris
Durhommer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am
Do you guys stir in your yeast or just leave it on top of the ferment
I rehydrate mine, then give it a feed. By the time it gets pitched it's climbing out of the jug.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:05 pm
by Saltbush Bill
Like Yummy I sprinkle dry.......dont be a tight wad with the yeast.....bakers is cheap.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:49 am
by Durhommer
Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:05 pm
Like Yummy I sprinkle dry.......dont be a tight wad with the yeast.....bakers is cheap.
So I'm gonna start this wash this weekend....I'm guessing that it doesn't clear so well?
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:23 pm
by Saltbush Bill
Give it some time once fermentation finishes ,2 - 3 days to a week if you have time, yeast and any crud will settle to the bottom the same as any wash.
It will always stay black though.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:40 pm
by Durhommer
Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:23 pm
Give it some time once fermentation finishes ,2 - 3 days to a week if you have time, yeast and any crud will settle to the bottom the same as any wash.
It will always stay black though.
That's what I was wondering would it stay dark in color thanks I'll be sure to let it settle good before I run it
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
by Saltbush Bill
It should look like this once its settled.
I don't bother with siphoning from the top. After a week 99.99% of yeast and other unwanted rubbish is a solid layer on the bottom of the fermenter, If you ferment in a container with a tap on or close to the bottom you can draw straight off. just turn the tap on very quickly and then back off, any yeast or rubbish sitting near or in the tap comes out in the first few 100ml or so.
If using a 25-30L fermenter I draw off about 300-500ml and toss that bit away, in my bigger 180L washes a liter or two gets tossed away.
In the Youtube clip the yeasty bit has already been drawn off and I'm collecting clean wash for the still.
Not everybody will want to do it that way , but it works for me.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:25 pm
by Durhommer
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Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
It should look like this once its settled.
I don't bother with siphoning from the top. After a week 99.99% of yeast and other unwanted rubbish is a solid layer on the bottom of the fermenter, If you ferment in a container with a tap on or close to the bottom you can draw straight off. just turn the tap on very quickly and then back off, any yeast or rubbish sitting near or in the tap comes out in the first few 100ml or so.
If using a 25-30L fermenter I draw off about 300-500ml and toss that bit away, in my bigger 180L washes a liter or two gets tossed away.
In the Youtube clip the yeasty bit has already been drawn off and I'm collecting clean wash for the still.
Not everybody will want to do it that way , but it works for me.
Thanks I'm a visual learning person that showed me what to expect I dont have a fermenting vessel with adrain tho so I'll be dipping off the top and be able to tell when I'm reaching the trub
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:54 pm
by Durhommer
So I started this wash around 230 today my whole house smells like molasses and I ferment in the garage I cant wait to see the results of the hard work
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:59 am
by Durhommer
Today my rum smells great and I can hear it sizzling a bit through the insulation I didn't use an airlock it's just a lid with about 5 winter blankets thrown over it sbb following your method how long to get it finished? A couple of weeks?
Durhommer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am
Do you guys stir in your yeast or just leave it on top of the ferment
I rehydrate mine, then give it a feed. By the time it gets pitched it's climbing out of the jug.
I'm used to making a starter so here's mine before it decided to climb out the jar its sizzling like bacon just like the video sbb posted
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:14 pm
by Saltbush Bill
Durhommer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:59 am
how long to get it finished?
If its kept quite warm it could be done in as litte as 3-4 days........kept cooler about a week.
Dont let it get to hot as an insulated wash can build a lot of heat in the first few days.
Durhommer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:59 am
how long to get it finished?
If its kept quite warm it could be done in as litte as 3-4 days........kept cooler about a week.
Dont let it get to hot as an insulated wash can build a lot of heat in the first few days.
Its warm to the touch I ferment in 30 gallon hdpe barrel im afraid to take the blankets off because my basement garage stays rather cold it smells almost like rasins or something like that fruity I used dady yeast cos that's what I had I didnt want to waste angel yeast so a week tops? Damn that's pretty good like doing a wposw
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:42 pm
by NZChris
I use Angel Instant Dry Yeast. It's cheap and just as good as any other bread yeast.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:46 pm
by Yummyrum
Put down another batch . For the visual types , heres the sprinkle of yeast .
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:44 pm
by Saltbush Bill
Yep thats a good sprinkle Yummy.....bout what Id put in.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:39 pm
by Not sure
I make yeast starters for mine and it works great like NZ chris said
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:34 pm
by shadylane
For making Rum
I'd recommend having 2X more yeast than needed.
Cook 1/2 the yeast to feed the other 1/2
Plan B
Uses some of the spent yeast from the bottom of a fermenter.
That gets boiled with some calcium carbonate.
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:50 am
by Not sure
So does anyone have any suggestions on aging this product? Thinking of leaving it white to compare to the other gallons I have on toast(210degrees for 2 hours)oak does it make a good white rum? I've always oaked mine so far
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:38 pm
by Yummyrum
I’ve never liked the “rawness” of it straight off the still . Its too bold for what I call White rum which to me is more like a light Bacardi style . However I run this recipe through a Reflux still ( think packed boka or VM) it ends up a light white Rum .... very drinkable immediately .
I prefer to age this All molasses Rum in my Oak barrel .
Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:57 pm
by Not sure
Yummyrum wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:38 pm
I’ve never liked the “rawness” of it straight off the still . Its too bold for what I call White rum which to me is more like a light Bacardi style . However I run this recipe through a Reflux still ( think packed boka or VM) it ends up a light white Rum .... very drinkable immediately .
I prefer to age this All molasses Rum in my Oak barrel .
Do you recommend a certain barrel say an ex bourbon barrel?
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