Dan's Flute x2, 4" x 5 plate 42" column

Post by **googe** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:20 pm

You Gota need a straight jacket after drilling all that mate?

. Nice job mate, you've got dedication!

dan · Post by **dan** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:26 pm

I made a product condenser today

, and wanted to see how it would look on a mock up of my column.....

-Dan

dan · Post by **dan** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:30 pm

Some closeups...

-Dan

Post by **Halfbaked** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:48 pm

Dan I will be honest with you, I think you might have done this once or twice before haven't you! MITY FINE!

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:29 am

I am using the same flanges on my build. How much did you Tin? Pic maybe ? I can't tell from your current pics sorry. I'm thinking just the entire inner side of the flange?

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:28 pm

-Halfbaked, Thank you! Yes, this is my second attempt with a slightly different design

-Davsmth41, Yes I only tinned the inside area that is exposed to the vapor path not the surface that will be in contact with the gaskets. Make sure that you flux them up real well and then get them medium hot so that the solder melts easily and then use a dry cotton rag to smear the solder completely around the inside of the flange. Only put flux where you want the solder to stick. It took me a couple times to get the technique down and now it is quick and easy. Good luck!

Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:56 pm

Thanks. Sounds good. Luckily I'm not a stranger to tinning. I want that pretty brass and didn't want to go to far. I have a few more questions but I will limit them to when I need them lol. Are you making your plates from sheet stock or flattening pipe?

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:08 pm

I made a quick video of soldering sight glasses to the column body if anyone is interested......

http://youtu.be/wdWvWTxVswg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

-Dan

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:26 pm

So as you can see I soldered up a few column bodies today with sight glasses..... tomorrow will be drilling out the holes and cleaning up the mess to make them look nice again.

-Dan

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:27 pm

Add the heat.... and solder.

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:28 pm

Finished project.....

-Dan

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:30 pm

davsmth41 wrote:Thanks. Sounds good. Luckily I'm not a stranger to tinning. I want that pretty brass and didn't want to go to far. I have a few more questions but I will limit them to when I need them lol. Are you making your plates from sheet stock or flattening pipe?

Dave,

I make all of my plates from 1/8" plate and have them roughed out at the water-jet place.

-Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:54 pm

Nice. That's Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:28 pm

Hey Dan, on top of your Deflag, looks like you dropped in a disc of copper to the first ledge of the brass flange, then followed with one on top?? Question is, are you concerned of pressure or other issues building up between the two discs soldered there? Looks great, great idea too.

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:08 pm

Dave-
I was worried about the weight of my condenser and the lateral load of it hanging out there only supported by one disc. There are also six 1/2" discs of 1/8" copper between the two bigger discs for added support and then all soldered together in a sandwich.
-Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:12 pm

Nice. So no area sealed in there that could build up in pressure? It looks really nice. I'd like to copy that with your approval.

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:17 pm

davsmth41 wrote:Nice. So no area sealed in there that could build up in pressure? It looks really nice. I'd like to copy that with your approval.

Patent pending Dave!!

help your self.... Glad you like it! It is sealed because I didn't know how you could keep it cleaned. I am not worried about any pressure from the small amount of air in there and the minor temperature increase.

-Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:20 pm

I have a good eye for beauty I think. Main reason I'm making one is I always need a fun project, a reason to acquire more tools, and the art of the craftsman. I was always taught ... Why try to change a good thing when someone else already has done it lol. I hope my craftsmanship meets your quality standards when done. Thanks so much for the help, advice, and ideas.

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:11 pm

Today I drilled out the sight glass holes in the column body and dressed them out with the router. Attached are a few pictures.

-Dan

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:13 pm

a few more pictures.....

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:27 pm

I like that hole saw

Post by **Halfbaked** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:33 pm

Dan I see a map gas torch in the back ground. You are not soldering that 4 in column with that are you? If so is it dvm? I like your copper dount rings that hold your sight glasses on. Are you cutting all the flat stuff out with a water jet? It looked like you drilled it with a drill on your plates. Is there a reason you are not using the water jet to drill the holes? How many of these flutes do you make a year? LOVE the tutorial on utube. Are you cutting your holes with the router?

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:53 pm

halfbaked wrote:Dan I see a map gas torch in the back ground. You are not soldering that 4 in column with that are you? If so is it dvm? I like your copper dount rings that hold your sight glasses on. Are you cutting all the flat stuff out with a water jet? It looked like you drilled it with a drill on your plates. Is there a reason you are not using the water jet to drill the holes? How many of these flutes do you make a year? LOVE the tutorial on utube.

-HB

I use MAPP for everything and no I do not use DWV tube! That is Type "L" which is just below "K" for being the thickest tube you can get. This time around I got quite a few parts cut at the water-jet place but they cannot drill the perforated plates. For starters the cost would be quadrupled per plate for the amount of time and start/ stops to do it and they cannot blow holes that small from my experience. Thank you for the compliments!!

This is my first attempt at producing more than two at a time. I just wanted to see what my time and materials would add up to if I made five of them and simplified the design a little bit. Just going for a minimalist look with lots of options for how to run it..... Pot Still, Plated Column, Plated Column w/ Packed section.... So you can make anything you want just as fast or slow as you want to.

I cut the holes with the hole saw and then clean them up with the router. The hole saw leaves a bit of an uneven ridge around the inside of the sight glass and the router removes that. Then you dress it out further with a 2" flap wheel sander mounted to the drill press.

-Dan

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:04 pm

davsmth41 wrote:I like that hole saw

-Dave

I got that one on ebay for $30.00, just do a search for 3Keego Hole Saw and make an offer of $30.00 AND free shipping!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130514190502?ss ... 1497.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

-Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:07 pm

Dan
Lol I'm looking now. What sizes did you get. Looks like they cut much cleaner then bi metal saws

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:11 pm

davsmth41 wrote:Dan
Lol I'm looking now. What sizes did you get. Looks like they cut much cleaner then bi metal saws

-Dave

I sent a link to the exact one I purchased the 1_15/16" OR 49mm......

-Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:12 pm

Dan

Did you radius the site glass with a hole saw also to make the radius of the pipe?

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:14 pm

davsmth41 wrote:Dan

Did you radius the site glass with a hole saw also to make the radius of the pipe?

-Dave

I used a Milwaukee Bi-Metal 4_1/8" hole saw from Home Depot and set up a jig that was mounted to the table of my drill press.

-Dan

davsmth41 · Post by **davsmth41** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:16 pm

Dan

Thanks again. That hole saw is popular, ony 3 left and 3 offers on them lol. Hope I get one. Good talking to you.

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:21 pm

davsmth41 wrote:Dan

Thanks again. That hole saw is popular, ony 3 left and 3 offers on them lol. Hope I get one. Good talking to you.

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