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Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:26 am
by carolina64
Is there a danger of the moslasses in the sweetfeed foaming up in the still pot, I want to be safe..I am greenhorn new for sure. I am having problems finding just the crushed grains feed that is not formed in soft pellets, I bought Cleveland Sweet Blend, is this ok? Thanks for your help, I want to get my facts right before even starting. Thanks again.
farmboy64

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:06 am
by Stainless dude
There is not enough molasses in the mix for you to worry about foaming Carolina. As far as the bag of grains that you bought, you just want to make sure that there is only corn, oaks and barley along with the molasses. No pellets, that is a sure sign that you don't have the right mix. You could always mix your own if your haveing trouble finding the right mixture..

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:51 pm
by aussie_redneck
Picked up a bag of hygain honey b sweetfeed today. Its a honey coated feed consisting of barley, lucerne chaff, molasses and natural vitamin e made up a 20lt wash time to see how it goes. Can't wait to try it just about to still my 5th gen of odins cf today aswell lifes good...

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:46 pm
by aussie_redneck
Start sg 1.08 two hours in and bubbling away like a champion..

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:44 pm
by MrAlarming
Love the thread - hate it's 123 pages long.

Also, hate that "sweet feed" means about 100 different things - all at the distributors discretion.

At any rate, just had a bad experience with the "sweet feed" from Southern States. Camo bag, "all grain" - smells acidic, looks bad, green things floating, etc.... Smells horrible. At any rate, I was mixin up a 30 gallon batch and ended up dumping it all out. I'm just not going to take a chance with all the yeast, sugar, propane, time, and aggravation of a failed brew. I dumped it 20 minutes in; just after I added hot water....

I'm so eager to try this recipe - just wish there was better definitions of "sweet feed" - it apparently means anything with molasses.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:26 pm
by Truckinbutch
MrAlarming wrote:Love the thread - hate it's 123 pages long.

Also, hate that "sweet feed" means about 100 different things - all at the distributors discretion.

At any rate, just had a bad experience with the "sweet feed" from Southern States. Camo bag, "all grain" - smells acidic, looks bad, green things floating, etc.... Smells horrible. At any rate, I was mixin up a 30 gallon batch and ended up dumping it all out. I'm just not going to take a chance with all the yeast, sugar, propane, time, and aggravation of a failed brew. I dumped it 20 minutes in; just after I added hot water....

I'm so eager to try this recipe - just wish there was better definitions of "sweet feed" - it apparently means anything with molasses.
What I do is mix my own with individual grains by weight . That way I know what it is . And , trust me and others , you will like it .

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:48 pm
by MrAlarming
Truckinbutch wrote:What I do is mix my own with individual grains by weight . That way I know what it is . And , trust me and others , you will like it .
Care to offer a recipe? I sure would appreciate it.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:57 pm
by Truckinbutch
MrAlarming wrote:
Truckinbutch wrote:What I do is mix my own with individual grains by weight . That way I know what it is . And , trust me and others , you will like it .
Care to offer a recipe? I sure would appreciate it.
Already posted here if you care to read . 30% cracked corn , 30% oats , 30% barley by weight and a 10% mix of molasses or brown sugar . You read enough to figure the rest out . Nobody here took you to raise .

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:49 pm
by Prairiepiss
I'm so eager to try this recipe - just wish there was better definitions of "sweet feed" - it apparently means anything with molasses.
Why does it have to be so specific? Mix up some grain and add some molasses. It don't even need to be different grains. I can get bags of rolled oats with molasses here. You could use anything you want or can get your hands on. And long as its grain. Not some pellet god knows what stuff. If all you can get is cracked corn. So be it add some molasses and get it working. Wheat, oats, barley, rye, spelt, and or corn will all work. It doesn't have to be cob corn oats barley. That's just what the majority of the sweetfeeds are made with.

Hell if you can't get good grains. Go get some corn meal, oat meal, and molasses from the grocery store. Bob's red mill has all kinds of good stuff. The multi grain cereal has some good stuff in it. It would make a fine drink on its own or with some molasses added. I eyeball that stuff every time I walk by it.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:24 pm
by MrAlarming
Thanks truckin, I appreciate your help, If you ever need anything in the N.E.U.S. let me know - I own a trucking company and would be happy to help you.

Mr. PP, thanks; you're introducing some blunt, no bullsh!t, straight forward opinion; classic for you. Once again, I'll seriously consider your advice.

None the less and fair enough, I'm a noob here at this point; so I certainly shouldn't be negative in replying to the thread. But... (and no offense to KS at all or to the knowledgeable folks that have contributed) the original post implied -- at least in my mind -- that you could go buy some "Sweet Feed", and have at it. Lesson learned you can't. My comment was only meant to add constructive, positive, improvement.

IMO, this thread should be started over, or the original post be edited to reflect real world circumstance.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:15 pm
by Jimbo
MrAlarming wrote: IMO, this thread should be started over, or the original post be edited to reflect real world circumstance.
For most it's available. You're just one of the unfortunate few.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:51 pm
by Truckinbutch
MrAlarming wrote:Thanks truckin, I appreciate your help, If you ever need anything in the N.E.U.S. let me know - I own a trucking company and would be happy to help you.

Mr. PP, thanks; you're introducing some blunt, no bullsh!t, straight forward opinion; classic for you. Once again, I'll seriously consider your advice.

None the less and fair enough, I'm a noob here at this point; so I certainly shouldn't be negative in replying to the thread. But... (and no offense to KS at all or to the knowledgeable folks that have contributed) the original post implied -- at least in my mind -- that you could go buy some "Sweet Feed", and have at it. Lesson learned you can't. My comment was only meant to add constructive, positive, improvement.

IMO, this thread should be started over, or the original post be edited to reflect real world circumstance.
Thanks for your offer , Mr Alarming . I have already fulfilled my dream of never seeing NYC in my windshield ever again .
There is , however , an issue of transporting about 3,000 pounds of rye grain from the Canandigua area to a junction of I-70 and I-68 that I might like to discuss with you via PM .

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:26 pm
by seeyanextyear
i am a long way from making whiskey, but would this recipe be fine to use with a reflux still?

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:30 pm
by Prairiepiss
What kind of reflux still?

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:42 pm
by Ghost
I guess you could in pot still mode - but yeah what PP said .... what kind of reflux?

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:06 pm
by seeyanextyear
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looks almost the exact same. i've used water once so far

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:08 pm
by Ghost
I believe there was a design on the parent site that was similar to this, not very well received around these parts. Its not so much a reflux in the way the reflux has evolved that we know today.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:12 pm
by seeyanextyear
hmmm ok well I'm just doing this for fun don't even know if i would ever try to make whiskey. The one run i did using water it came out smelling like copper. anyway to fix that?

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:14 pm
by Ghost
search the site for cleaning run - this will give you a step by step on how to clean a still. Then you would want to do a sacrificial run ( cheap box wine or something like that) then .... you are ready to run something you can partake in. I would suggest the tried and true section and the UJSSM. Turns out a really good product and its pretty easy.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:19 pm
by seeyanextyear
thanks for the good advice ghost!

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:50 pm
by Hound Dog
seeyanextyear wrote:hmmm ok well I'm just doing this for fun don't even know if i would ever try to make whiskey. The one run i did using water it came out smelling like copper. anyway to fix that?
Mr. Piss has good advice on running a CM style still. But you can certainly make whiskey in a reflux still. I have done it with this very recipe with an LM reflux still.

I think water always comes out a little copper tasting from a copper still. People use stainless to distill water for this very reason. Don't worry, after you do your sacrificial run like Ghost was saying you won't taste it in your spirits.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:45 pm
by seeyanextyear
sounds good. i still need to learn a lot before the whiskey making comes along but the advise is much appreciated. y'all are good people.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:24 pm
by JBR
I just finished stripping the 4th generation and now started stripping the 5th. In the 5th I pulled about 400ml of what smelled of foreshot. All of the others seemed to be clear at 150ml to 200ml . What's the deal? Why so much foreshot this batch? Or am I smelling something else?
Thanks

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:07 pm
by jarheadshiner
If you are continually adding heads back to your strip runs every generation then your heads/fores cut will become a little larger.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:53 pm
by JBR
No I did not.. That's the thing

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:34 am
by SAPmaker
Gonna make this mash this evening. Bought a bag of sweet feed at the local feed bag. Looking forward to see8ng it turn out.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:12 pm
by slow trickle
That is not a reflux still. It is a pot still unless there is a cooling coil condenser at the top. The output condenser looks a little small also. This is a great product for a pot still. Just don't push it to hard or you will have vapor exiting the condenser with it being so short.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:25 pm
by seeyanextyear
I am currently doing a run the first 16oz. jar came out being 120 proof the next 110 and now the third is 90 proof. should the alcohol content be dropping this quick? this is from a 5 gallon pot

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:03 pm
by Truckinbutch
That volume of collection on a first run sounds about right . Consider it a strip run to be added to others for a spirit run . Ya got too much jammed together there to really separate out much for the first run .

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:12 am
by tony184k
all the sweet feed in my area has a small pellet mixed in with it can't find manna pro in my area is the kind that has pellets ok to use thanks