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Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:36 am
by East Coast
Prairiepiss wrote:What temp?
Its around 20'c in the house

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:37 pm
by East Coast
Is that not warm enough for red star to work?

How long should it take to fully ferment using red star?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:46 pm
by East Coast
What happens if I use too much yeast?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:03 pm
by rad14701
East Coast wrote:What happens if I use too much yeast?
What do you consider too much...??? You can't really over-pitch... I've used up to 2 tablespoons per gallon in the past and the resulting spirits were just fine...

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:36 pm
by East Coast
I tried 3 tablespoons for 21L of total mash,(water & sugar)

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:28 pm
by MitchyBourbon
Under pitching adversely affects flavor more than over pitching, over pitching affects yeast health more over generations. Both can produce higher levels of diacetal, acetaldehyde and ferments that do not finish dry. Pitching to high can also result in low or unexpected ester production. Pitching too low can result in slower fermentation and longer lag time which in turn increases the risk of infection. I would rather over pitch than under pitch. I would think it harder to over pitch to the extent that it was noticeable.

While I would say that 3 table spoons is over pitching, I don't think you would ever notice any ill effects.

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:56 am
by East Coast
MitchyBourbon wrote:Under pitching adversely affects flavor more than over pitching, over pitching affects yeast health more over generations. Both can produce higher levels of diacetal, acetaldehyde and ferments that do not finish dry. Pitching to high can also result in low or unexpected ester production. Pitching too low can result in slower fermentation and longer lag time which in turn increases the risk of infection. I would rather over pitch than under pitch. I would think it harder to over pitch to the extent that it was noticeable.

While I would say that 3 table spoons is over pitching, I don't think you would ever notice any ill effects.
Should I have only used 2 tablespoons ? or 2.5?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:30 pm
by East Coast
I have one bucket going on 3 weeks now and still not done fermenting.

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:27 pm
by Doogie
wow - nothing like aging it before distilling :)

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:38 am
by East Coast
Picked up a heat belt and it seems to be doing better now

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:52 am
by East Coast
I have had one bottle blow up on me. What would make this happen?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:44 am
by Doogie
Yeast produce likker and CO2
if you closed them in, you made a pressure bomb out of sugar and yeast

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:03 pm
by East Coast
Doogie wrote:Yeast produce likker and CO2
if you closed them in, you made a pressure bomb out of sugar and yeast
this happened a few days after it was distilled and cut with water to bring it to 40%

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:51 pm
by Doogie
hmmm ... temperature change? Where I am it is about -30'C ... maybe that stressed your container?
maybe this plus a defective container?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:44 pm
by East Coast
I was hoping that it was just a weak bottle, but the funny part is it stayed in there for a few days with out breaking. It scared the crap out of me when it blew up, it made a good dang glass went everywhere and so did the shine lol

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:49 pm
by East Coast
I am finding that the red star bread yeast is taking over 3 weeks to ferment.

Am I not using enough nutrient?

I got a small bag of nutrient from the brew store and added a tablespoon of it to the wash.

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:04 pm
by East Coast
I am not getting the same amount of volume with the red star as I can with super yeast x-press.

How can I get the volume of alcohol up by using red star?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:51 pm
by Prairiepiss
East Coast wrote:I am finding that the red star bread yeast is taking over 3 weeks to ferment.

Am I not using enough nutrient?

I got a small bag of nutrient from the brew store and added a tablespoon of it to the wash.
What recipe did you use?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:54 pm
by Prairiepiss
East Coast wrote:I am not getting the same amount of volume with the red star as I can with super yeast x-press.

How can I get the volume of alcohol up by using red star?
Volume?

From the sounds of it. You are trying to push it like a turbo yeast. It's not a turbo yeast. It's baking yeast.

Are you trying to make a bunch. Or a good product?

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:25 am
by East Coast
It took 4 weeks or so and only got a 8% wash before boiling and only got 3L out of my t500

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:57 am
by T-Pee
East Coast wrote:I was hoping that it was just a weak bottle, but the funny part is it stayed in there for a few days with out breaking. It scared the crap out of me when it blew up, it made a good dang glass went everywhere and so did the shine lol
If it was a Carlo Rossi bottle, they have known "issues". If not, ensure you have plenty of headroom in the bottle.
Air can compress. Liquids do not. If there isn't enough headroom temperature expansion can cause a bottle to KB.

tp

Re: How much Red Star

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:30 pm
by rad14701
First, regarding the "volume", what was the exact recipe...??? Yeast doesn't determine the volume of potential spirits, fermentable sugar does...

As for the burst bottle, did you dilute to bottle proof and cap...??? If you did then some exothermic reaction could have taken place which would increase internal pressure... Then just about any environmental change could cause the bottle to reach its terminal pressure and burst...