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googe wrote:I walk around bare foot to belly :D :P . It's a copper plate rock, thought about using a coin when I was doing it, don't have any Pennies here, a 5c coin is nearly the right size though.
Are Canadian or Australian pennies even copper? U.S. pennies have been copper plating over a zinc core since 1982. The last 100% copper U.S. pennies were minted in 1857


U.S. penny composition over the years:

1793–1796 100% copper
1796–1857 100% copper
1856–1864 88% copper, 12% nickel (also known as NS-12)
1864–1942 "bronze" (95% copper, 5% tin and zinc)
1943 zinc-coated steel (also known as 1943 steel cent)
1944–1946 "brass" (95% copper, 5% zinc)
1946–1962 "bronze" (95% copper, 5% tin and zinc)
1962–1981 "brass" (95% copper, 5% zinc)
1982 varies: "brass" (95% copper, 5% zinc) or copper-plated zinc (97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper)
1983–present 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper (core: 99.2% zinc, 0.8% copper; plating: pure copper)

Are you gonna make 180-hole perferated plates with a .005" diameter drill bit?! :think: :crazy:
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This is awesome.
Had a freind that did specialty parts. His entire shop included major pieces of equipment. But all of the equipment was for miniature. Could fit the entire shop into a closet.
He landed a nice contract turning out hardware for a watch maker.
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how about SS mesh for plates? while beyond my ability im sure u could work out the optimum mesh size easily enough.. could save a lot of small hole drilling, but you might enjoy the work ;)

am looking forward to a vid of it working :)
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googe wrote:Thanks.corene, would be cool.to see it running!. What size pipe did you use for the arm and the rest?.
It has a 1/2 inch column with a 1/4 inch lyne arm. From there it has a removable coil made of 5/32 by .035 copper tube. I have run it on my stove , I will have to take a picture of it . I am going t get a miniature back pack burner for it pretty soon.
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googe wrote:Lol doogie, probably take 5mins for the entire run! Lol. Thanks.jedneck!, hadn't thought of that!, was sitting in the shed thinking hmm how the hell am I going to do these plates!, good option thanks mate!.
First plate done!, I think I'm going to be totally bald after this :lol: .
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corene1 wrote:
googe wrote:Thanks.corene, would be cool.to see it running!. What size pipe did you use for the arm and the rest?.
It has a 1/2 inch column with a 1/4 inch lyne arm. From there it has a removable coil made of 5/32 by .035 copper tube. I have run it on my stove , I will have to take a picture of it . I am going t get a miniature back pack burner for it pretty soon.

Why not build one of these and run it on fores?

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Thanks soggy, good info, I'm just gunna stick with making them!. thanks lwtcs, it is fun :-). Thanks fil, I don't think it would work due to being to porous, could be wrong though!!. Thanks corene, I'm using 1/4 inch too. Cant wait to see yours running :-). . Lol doogie. Thats cool rod, never seen that thread!.
I'm going to do a flap plate tree, too much maths and work in doing perfs or bubble caps.
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I could do the maths for you for perforated plates...if you wanted :D
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Knock ya self out Brendan :egeek: :thumbup: .

Deflag dry fit, 3x1/4", monster!, I need little girly fingers to handle this stuff!!!!! :lol: .
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Does this arm and condenser size look ok?
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googe wrote:Knock ya self out Brendan :egeek: :thumbup: .
If you're thinking about doing perforated, let us know:
- the diameter of your plates
- the diameter of your downcomers
- the size of any threaded rod, if you're using it down the middle
- if downcomer cups will be on the plate or above...
- and the smallest drill bit that you can get a hold of :crazy:

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Looking good- you could take it camping!
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Your killing me here Brendan! Lol. Ok, I'll get some.numbers some time. Lol didn't think of that heartcut! :D
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googe wrote:Your killing me here Brendan! Lol. Ok, I'll get some.numbers some time. Lol didn't think of that heartcut! :D
Haha, I can just guesstimate if its too much :lol:
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Lol Brendan, 18mm plate, 3/16 downcomer, 1/4" cap. Do it rock :-D. I'm hoping the glass dude can make me some to slide into the half inch window frames, will wait and see.
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That's just awesome googe. Almost like working on a clock or watch.. :thumbup:
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Thanks.stainless :thumbup: I nice shinny stainless one would be outstanding!! Wink wink, nudge nudge :wink:
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googe wrote:Knock ya self out Brendan :egeek: :thumbup: .

Deflag dry fit, 3x1/4", monster!, I need little girly fingers to handle this stuff!!!!! :lol: .
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it's so cute....
awesome project googe, I'm watching this one
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Okay, so I punched these out on my iPhone last night, so if anyone picks up some errors please chime in and help me out :tired:

So with the details you gave me:
- 18mm plates
- 3/16" downcomers (4.7625mm)
- 1/4" cup (6.35mm)

And making these assumptions:
- 2mm rod through the center?
- 1/32" drill bit? (0.79375mm)

Results in these area calculations:
- Plates 1017.876mm^2
- Downcomers 71.25574mm^2
- Cup 126.6769mm^2
- Rod 12.5664mm^2
- Drill bit 1.979mm^2

So to calculate the free space left on the plate = Plate are - dc's area - cup area - rod area.

Plate space = 807.377mm^2

Aiming for 8% optimal wet plate surface area = 64.59mm^2

which equals 32.64 holes round to 32 holes (for a 1/32" drill bit).

I worked out roughly that you should squeeze those in if you draw up a 2.5mm grid pattern, and place the holes around the fixtures already on each plate. I gave it a very quick mock up drawing to see if you would get around 32 holes and it worked alright :thumbup:
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Loving this :thumbup:

sorry I don't have anything beneficial to say... other than... Loving this :mrgreen:
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Impressive Brendan, well done :thumbup: . Lots of broken drill bits there haha. Would be pretty cool to try, I don't have the patients though lol. Thanks tap.

Got the deflag soldered in today, insane how small everything is, dunno how I did it lol.
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googe wrote:Impressive Brendan, well done :thumbup: . Lots of broken drill bits there haha
Just buy a $5 cobalt bit, you'll only need one...

I know you mentioned flap plate, but you could also go a single bubble cap using a 1/2" end cap... :think:
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1/2" is to big, with the flap plate I can use any size hole in any area of the plate and it will work, don't have to worry about hole size disrupting holding a bath :thumbup:
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This is getting interesting. Love the idea of setting it up on the campfire and having a little fresh white dog.
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I'm thinking this lil guy can do 1 liter per hour?
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LWTCS wrote:I'm thinking this lil guy can do 1 liter per hour?
At least he won't have to cut a hole in his shed roof eh Larry, lol.
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wv_cooker wrote:
LWTCS wrote:I'm thinking this lil guy can do 1 liter per hour?
At least he won't have to cut a hole in his shed roof eh Larry, lol.
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googe wrote:Thanks.stainless :thumbup: I nice shinny stainless one would be outstanding!! Wink wink, nudge nudge :wink:
Mmmm, I do have some tube at the shop...
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Damnit googe that really pisses me I was sitting here watching the tv thinking that would be a good mock up an I'm a day late an a dollar short lmao!!! Let me know how it works
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One like.corene did would be perfect for that heartcut :thumbup: never really thought about output lwcs, it's not much smaller than 1" and 1" can have a good output. I'm more.curious to see what ABV it'll do, if it works that is :crazy: . Lol cooker, That would be some challenging tiging stainless lol.
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Condenser done, 65mm 1/4" inside, 60mm 1/2" outer shell. Got the sight glass flanges soldered in too.
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