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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:01 pm
by Old_Blue
I can see the Blue ridge mountains from my house
In the shadow of Hogback...

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:11 pm
by Jetzon
I left that UJSM out over night and then some. Probably 15 hours and for the first time I could "Kinda" tell where to make my cuts.
I'm getting a much better idea of that Heart taste and the Funky Tails taste. Without a doubt I'm gonna try running it threw twice.
Thanks to a lot of help from people here (notably Wineo)
For me that would be Dnderhead. I sure wouldn't be where I'm at right now.
My mentor and Good friend.

Thanks Dr.D!

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:53 pm
by Ftero
Jetzon wrote:I ride 4wheelers Ftero. I ride 4x4 Mountain trails.. Love hill climbing and getting tucked Way back up in the woods. Find a good view pop a beer and relax. Two types of people. Some like beaches some like mountains. Me be a mountain man. I can see the Blue ridge mountains from my house and Neva Eva get tired of see'm....
I know what you mean about the allure of the mountains. My favorite rides are on the fire roads that criss-cross the mountains around here. My old street bike doesn't like those gravel roads too much, but I take it slow.
I'm never without my hip flask, and I always stop along the way to enjoy the views, take a sip or two and give thanks for being alive.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:04 pm
by Jetzon
Amen Ftero...
Some of my Best rides have been on Sunday mornings. Stop at an Awesome view, Grab my Sirius satellite boom box and listen to my Stain glass Blue Grass... Thats as far to going to church as I can do. :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:31 pm
by Husker
Jetzon wrote:I cant say why or how. But Husker answer there just clicked a switch in me head :idea: That 1 post just put a chunk of this puzzle together for me. Dam Husker I cant thank ya enough....
~BAM~ I could have had a V8 Thing :lol:
Trust me Jetzon, thing will only get better for you, the more practice you get. Even now, with a little Actual distillation experience under your belt, I am sure that you understand things MUCH better.

Would be nice if more of the new ppl simply figured out some safety issues, and then simply experimented instead of constantly asking "how do I do this", worrying that they have to be perfect to start. Hell, when you start you are SUPPOSED to make crap. That is part of the learning process.

H.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:38 pm
by Husker
Jetzon wrote:Punkin

So basically you always run it twice. Depending on the %
I didn't think this could be possible.... I'm Even More Excited! :o
I feel like I'm 16 and just got my drivers license and a Hot date heading to the Drive in movies :wink:
Running twice is something I almost always do (with exception of rum). However, your still AND how you drive it, will make the difference on whether you can run it twice or not.

If you want to run it twice, then on the first run, run it pretty damn hard. You are NOT wanting to make any cuts (other than possibly pulling out the first bit of foreshots). Leave all the heads and go pretty deep into the tails. This should reduce the volume to 1/4 to 1/3 of its original volume, and triple or quadruple the ABV. Then do that 3 or 4 times, and you will have a new boiler full of what is called "low wines". You then run this, pulling out the foreshots, and then carefully making cuts at the heads, and tails. You will NOT want to drive the still as hard as you did when you stripped the washes, or you will likely get skanky tails for most of the run.

When you double run like this, you certain want to use a pot still (with little reflux). And like punkin said, the cuts are Much more pronounced, and easy to make properly.

When I double run, my body ends up in the 65-68% range, which is almost EXACTLY where I want it to be, for proper oak aging. I want it at 65, so if it is just a little too high, I mix in just a touch of mineral water prior to oaking. But from experience, my 11.5% washes turn out just about perfect in the final body ABV.

H.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:43 pm
by Dnderhead
husker he does not have Enough to do double

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:59 pm
by Husker
Dnderhead wrote:husker he does not have Enif to do double
Agreed. When you double run, you are actually setting yourself up for 3 still fulls (at least) of wash. You do not double run just a single still full.

Jet, what you have now, (the hearts) you should age and bottle. BE SURE to keep some. You will laugh about how bad it is in the future. Right now, it seems the best in the world, but trust me, it will always be "special", even if you later find out it is not the best (or even close) that you have done.

You might make "plans" on doing a 3 mash double run. It will take you a month or more, unless you start multiple ferments going pretty much at the same time.

H.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:55 pm
by Jetzon
Gotcha...
well I plan on making more wine... Ive got another 7 gallons of Raspberry wine racking now for another Brandy run.... I'll start another 14 gallons of wine this week..
Totally digging Brandy and Whiskey... Few more batches of UJSM and onto trying other grains along with the corn.... D's been learning me on Malting.
Gotta try some barley and rye mixed in....

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:40 pm
by noobstiller
nice work


jars like the one in the middle are worth money, if they are the same type I had. I sold 10 of them I found while cleaning out an old ladys garage for 50$ each.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:46 pm
by Usge
Jet,
Just think where you started! You turned that POS still into something useable, gained a lot of knowledge in the process and are now well on your way!!

Congrats to you!

And yes, we all owe where we are (whereever that may be/ and I'm still in the learning process) in our knowledge of this art to those here before us, who've helped us etc.
The learning never stops.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:45 pm
by punkin
Jetzon wrote:Gotcha...
well I plan on making more wine... Ive got another 7 gallons of Raspberry wine racking now for another Brandy run.... I'll start another 14 gallons of wine this week..
Totally digging Brandy and Whiskey... Few more batches of UJSM and onto trying other grains along with the corn.... D's been learning me on Malting.
Gotta try some barley and rye mixed in....
There's something to be said for practising on the one recipe too. You pick up this, you find out that, you get a cut a little better than last time. Ujsm is perfect for it too, cause it just keeps on going, no work, no time brewing, bugger all cost and it gets better and better taste wise.

If you deceide to keep your ujsm drum going, that's the one you should strip, save and spirit run with. That way, as you get different and better flavours and spirit quality, you'll know it's cause youre actually making a better job of distilling, rather than try to compare two different whiskeys.

By all means keep trying new things, but i like to have the ujsm ticking over as well. 8)

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:29 am
by goose eye
noobstiller a new 1/2 jug will cost you one doller an fifty cent each at case price. a new short case of quarts is 8 plus an wide mouth quart jugs is moren that. turn them quarts upside down an look for number on bottom that adds to price. 1 - 13 i think. dependin on numbers air bubbles an makers them jugs is worth 5 dollers each minimum plus if you got the lids an impression on glass in them lids. yall young likker dicks want to say old to a old likker dick without openin your mouth. put some good made likker in a old green jug an let that do your talkin.

that 1/2 galon jug in picture is called a strong shoulder - if it was a atlas

so im tole

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:35 pm
by Jetzon
Shaweee-Doggies!

Not sure what to call this Cough Brandy :lol: I can hear it now. Peach you say huh :shock: If you say so Jet :lol: ...
Think I'll jar this and put in the corner for a Certain friend of mine :? He's like little Mikey, He'll drink Any thang! I learned a lot on yesterdays run so no losses here.
Learn from your mistakes and Keep on Keeping on..

Thanks All..