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Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:36 pm
by kimbodious
@ Cayars, I use curly green kale, never felt the need to try any other brassica. I think the people who cook the kale are the ones with the off odour issues. Minimal kale involved, it is just for micronutrients, I use 50 grams of kale for a 24 litre wash.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:13 am
by Corsaire
Do you use the stems or just the curly leaves?

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:44 am
by Saltbush Bill
Dunno about others but Ive used all parts....just give it a quick whizz in the blender with a bit of water and Bobs yer uncle.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:57 am
by Corsaire
Thanks!

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:21 am
by Hilcovan
FullySilenced wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:48 pm This is a wash under development for use to make a good clean neutral. Kale has lots of vitamins and minerals so no additional support should be needed for the yeast.

Made up 28 gallons of it, but i am gonna call it "Googe's Goo"... blended the kale to juice and used the whole plant in the wash... this wash will make Kermit the Frog jealous, so ifn you don't like green stay away from the Goo roblox music codes

44 pounds of sugar to 28 gallons plus 1 pound of juiced Kale wash cost of $27.00 us

calculates out to 11.1% wash

added 60 grams of high sg bakers yeast at 95f

IF all goes well it should be rolling in a short while...

Thanks in advance for the Goo Recipe, Googe

FS
This is interesting, so please keep the thread going. Where in the wide wide world would one get Kale?? I have heard of it, but never seen it. I'm going to be interested to see how much Kale comes through. I think it slowed it a little but it's still champagne bubbling away wash is rolling from bottom to top you can see bits an pieces of the kale surfacing.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:40 pm
by kimbodious
Hilcovan, I buy my kale from the green grocer section of my local Woolworths supermarket. Last week I bought a 500 gram bunch of kale for $2.27, nearly enough for six washes after removing the thickest part of the stalks

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:47 pm
by Saltbush Bill
I pick mine fresh from the garden. It's good for washes but horrible to eat.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:11 am
by Windswept
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I just started a batch, it’s going good, but I felt like I needed to poke the Krausen down into the wash so the kale was actually in it instead of floating on top.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:42 am
by kimbodious
Windswept wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:11 am 5E181077-9630-4F69-94EB-EACAF843D463.jpeg

I just started a batch, it’s going good, but I felt like I needed to poke the Krausen down into the wash so the kale was actually in it instead of floating on top.
Whoa, how much kale did you add?

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:57 am
by Windswept
one metric bunch. not really sure how much it was, but probably too much...

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 pm
by kimbodious
Windswept wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:57 am one metric bunch. not really sure how much it was, but probably too much...
Holy kale Batman, way too much! :esurprised:

My fermenter is about 25 litres (approx 6 US Gallons) and the standard recipe for a fermenter of that size is 50 grams (approx 2 ounces) of kale. The kale is only there as micronutrients for the yeast.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:25 pm
by Windswept
kimbodious wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 pm
Windswept wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:57 am one metric bunch. not really sure how much it was, but probably too much...
Holy kale Batman, way too much! :esurprised:

My fermenter is about 25 litres (approx 6 US Gallons) and the standard recipe for a fermenter of that size is 50 grams (approx 2 ounces) of kale. The kale is only there as micronutrients for the yeast.
Yikes. This one is holding about 65-70 litres and I put in about a pound of kale!

Oh well, it was on sale, so those will be some well fed yeasties, and I’ll know for next time!

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:16 am
by kimbodious
Windswept wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:25 pm
kimbodious wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 pm
Windswept wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:57 am one metric bunch. not really sure how much it was, but probably too much...
Holy kale Batman, way too much! :esurprised:

My fermenter is about 25 litres (approx 6 US Gallons) and the standard recipe for a fermenter of that size is 50 grams (approx 2 ounces) of kale. The kale is only there as micronutrients for the yeast.
Yikes. This one is holding about 65-70 litres and I put in about a pound of kale!

Oh well, it was on sale, so those will be some well fed yeasties, and I’ll know for next time!
:lol: oops , I buy the kale when it is on sale price and freeze it in 50g samples, looking forward to hearing how the ferment and final spirit goes - you could have discovered something! “It is not a mistake, it is a learning opportunity!”

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:15 pm
by Bushman
My son is growing a lot of kale and we are thinking about doing a combination of kale and beet greens. Can I ask what variety of kale you using or does it matter?

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:05 pm
by Saltbush Bill
Don't think that matters Bushy. When I made it I just used what was in the garden.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:08 am
by Bushman
OK, I have another question after reading about kale it does look like all the varieties carry about the same nutrients. In reading one sentence grabbed my eye
Always remove the middle rib as it tends to be overly tough and fibrous and imparts a more bitter taste when eaten. Remove the rib by hand or with kitchen shears.
Did you guys remove the middle rib before blending it?

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:14 pm
by kimbodious
Bushman wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:08 am OK, I have another question after reading about kale it does look like all the varieties carry about the same nutrients. In reading one sentence grabbed my eye
Always remove the middle rib as it tends to be overly tough and fibrous and imparts a more bitter taste when eaten. Remove the rib by hand or with kitchen shears.
Did you guys remove the middle rib before blending it?
I do. I can’t always rely on getting kale when I need it. When I get a bunch of kale I bag and freeze it in 50 gram batches. I thought it would be easier to keep the batches the same if I leave out the rib. Nothing surgical or aesthetic about how I tear the blade from the ribs.

Fifty grams of kale leaf material takes up quite a bit of volume. I put it in a ziplock bag and squeeze out all the air etc before freezing it to save on freezer space

Our dogs meanwhile are begging to eat the rib material, they love it

I want to try dehydrating kale and storing it in dried pulverised form, I’ll let you know how that works.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:32 am
by Bushman
Started my first Kale wash. I wish someone would have told me how big kale plants get, I planted eight plants and used part of one plant for an 11 gallon wash. We will see if my math conversion was correct.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:46 pm
by The Baker
Bushman wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:32 am Started my first Kale wash. I wish someone would have told me how big kale plants get, I planted eight plants and used part of one plant for an 11 gallon wash. We will see if my math conversion was correct.
Kale for dinner, for dinner, for dinner...

Geoff

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:57 pm
by Tabucowboy
FullySilenced wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:48 pm
44 pounds of sugar to 28 gallons plus 1 pound of juiced Kale wash cost of $27.00 us

Where are you getting your sugar? I am assuming Kale was grown. That seams expensive. My sugar from Wally World is $10 for 25 lb bag,

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:10 am
by Bushman
That is actually not a bad price for sugar, at Costco I spend 50 cents a pound.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:12 am
by Bushman
Just checked out the wash after putting it in my fermentation cart yesterday and I see what Googe and FS are talking about. It smells as good as any fermentation I have done thus far. With all the Kale I have I am going to try and do another fermentation after this.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:35 am
by Tummydoc
Bushman wrote:That is actually not a bad price for sugar, at Costco I send 50 cents a pound.
I used to use Costco, but Walmart is 8.30 for 25 lbs. No one seems to look when I buy 4 bags!

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:03 am
by Bushman
Tummydoc wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:35 am
Bushman wrote:That is actually not a bad price for sugar, at Costco I send 50 cents a pound.
I used to use Costco, but Walmart is 8.30 for 25 lbs. No one seems to look when I buy 4 bags!
I avoid shopping at Walmart but may have to make a special trip!

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:59 pm
by Bushman
I am noticing that a lot of the kale remains floating on the surface. Thinking about scooping it out prior to siphoning it into the boiler. Is that what the rest of you that have made the kale wash do?

PS: crab cakes and kale fritters for dinner tonight!

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:17 pm
by kimbodious
I don’t remove the floating bits but probably should. Last stripping run I had a puke and when I investigated the lone copper scrubber in the riser was choked with bits of kale!

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:13 pm
by Bushman
When doing all grain I usually siphon through a paint cloth but I was thinking the chunks of kale would clog my siphon so I think I will skim first then siphon.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:25 pm
by Zeotropic
Bushman wrote:Started my first Kale wash. I wish someone would have told me how big kale plants get, I planted eight plants and used part of one plant for an 11 gallon wash. We will see if my math conversion was correct.
Mmm you can make kale soup with it.
My family recipe uses kale, potatoes, carrots, garlic powder, soy sauce, cayenne and maybe a couple other ingredients and spices depending on the day but that's the basics. We call it collard soup because it is our family variation of portuguese collard soup but we have come to prefer kale.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:34 am
by Bushman
We had a great kale salad last night with crab cakes. Tonight we will have kale fritters.

Re: Googe's Goo AKA The Kale-Sugar Wash

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:13 am
by Bushman
1/2 way through the run and seems to be going well!