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worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:05 am
by Thorn_veritas
http://jonahsimon.com/public_forum/moon ... shine.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
i seen it in Q&a with mentors wanted to leave a message but we all know the rules so i thought i would repost here!
I just want to see what everyone else has to say about it, its the craziest still i have ever seen
made me think if you know of any other bodgy stills attatch them aswell
so what do ya think?????
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:49 am
by rad14701
That article is a prime example of someone who has no clue of what the hell they are doing going ahead and publishing potentially dangerous DIY information... Close, but no cigar...
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:28 am
by ozone39
You mean using books to shore up the heating element is bad??? Seriously

Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:53 am
by LWTCS
Now you sound like a book hater Ozone

....And I suppose you hate the books under the collection vessel too.

Book hater book hater.
Seriously, I'd be embarassed to post a contraption like that.
Close but no cigar
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:56 am
by rednose
[quote="rad14701"]That article is a prime example of someone who has no clue of what the hell they are doing going ahead and publishing potentially dangerous DIY information... Close, but no cigar......[/oquote]
Hi Rad, is this comment ment for me (my avatar)?
Please let me know and I will not post here anymore.
Let me tell you that I macerate and process (pressing, filtering, pasteurizating and bottleling) about 15.000 Kg monthly Noni fruit since more than 5 years and it's very related to fermenting. Anyhow there comes always something new and it needs to be understand and learned.
I worked 2 years ago in a project of elaboration Limes vinegar but it couldn't be finished due to few interest of the local agriculture folks which prefer to bring their harvest to the local market and get ripped off by the intermediates.
I'm reading about 10 hours daily, not only in HD. How many time an average Joe can read, learn and more than that: practice? Maybe 2 hours a day?
I'm not saying that I qualify to give advice to anybody and I'm very careful to do so, especially if it comes to something dangerous.
My stills (I have 5 now and one mini Apollo still of 3 Ltr. is in work) are well done, thanks to all the advices of you folks here, but the Apollo is based on what I was reading elsewhere and is a semi industrial, mobile still cause of his product output in quantity (2 gal/h) and quality (hearts of 75%).
The essential still which I didn't post here till now has a professional purpose and it's the reason why I came to distilling in general and with that to this site.
I will built another still this year which will be closed to OD's Coffey but in 6 inch and it will be a continuous action.
I am only one step away to get my official permit for I will get a special certificate and will be able to sell my product nationwide, but that will still take a while. distilling alcoholic beverages; that paperwork includes a sanitary inspection of my lab, that’s a reason why I always hard and not soft solder.
Once that I establish a receipt for a whiskey elaboration for the local taste I will get a special certificate and will be able to sell my product nationwide, but that will still take a while.
So, my plan is to be a future professional in this biz but I have to read and learn much more, recently I understood how plate and continuous stills really work and am able now to calculate the builts.
All my machines like presses, filters, pasteurizaters, bottling, etc. I built by myself as this is my real studied profession.
If you think that I published any "dangerous DIY information" please let me know where and I will do all to get it deleted.
Respectfully
Joe
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:22 am
by Thorn_veritas
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p6821654
hi red nose im sure rad meant no offense to
close but no cigar. is a saying used all the time
the link is to the original post posted my a noob ( a dumb one at that ha ha ha who was is that said darwins theory of natural selction was a good thing? )
it obvious that you have a vast knowledge of the stillin process
thats just what i think though im sure rad will repost

Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:45 am
by rednose
I hoped so but wanna be sure.
Rad was one of the mentors that showed me the right way to avoid the typical mistakes of a beginner.
This site is so essential if you wanna do something serious in stilling and has almost all infos you need, thanks to the ones which spend their time to show others what really matters and what is secure.
Joe
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:47 am
by rubber duck
Rednose, I guess I could be wrong, but I don't think Rads comment was a jab at you. Close but no cigar is a very common American phrase, I use it about once a month. It's not a insult.
Furthermore I have yet to see you post anything that could be considered dangerous, and I'm very impressed with your builds.
If I feel like someone on this forum has a problem with me I just PM them and make It strait. It usually turns out better, that way no one get defensive or bent out of shape.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:00 am
by rednose
Haha, maybe I should change my avator with that phrase, you are right, that is offtopic and should be talked in a PM but my post isn't offensive so I will not delete it.
Thanks to clarify RD.
Have a great, stilling weekend all.
rubber duck wrote:Rednose, I guess I could be wrong, but I don't think Rads comment was a jab at you. Close but no cigar is a very common American phrase, I use it about once a month. It's not a insult.
Furthermore I have yet to see you post anything that could be considered dangerous, and I'm very impressed with your builds.
If I feel like someone on this forum has a problem with me I just PM them and make It strait. It usually turns out better, that way no one get defensive or bent out of shape.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:21 am
by Barney Fife
Here Red, take a look. It's merely common lingo, and was not refering to you.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/clos ... cigar.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:29 am
by rednose
Hi Barney, yeah now I got it, the old avatar is gone to avoid further missies.
Will keep the posts, that way none US folks understand the meaning of "Close but no cigar", lol.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:16 pm
by rad14701
Geez...

Missed the whole false rift which seems to have been resolved...

Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:56 pm
by rubber duck
So back to the posted subject. I hope Darwin gets the moron that created that guide.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:29 pm
by blanikdog
Words fail me.
Sad thing is that stoopid prick will actually make that thing and wonder why s/he's feeling crook. <shaking head>
blanik
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:39 am
by The Baker
Hi Red and everyone,
Rednose I really enjoy reading your impressive posts.
It's interesting the different meanings words can have between languages, and between countries using the same language.
Many years ago, my Polish colleague told me, he asked a Russian for (I think) some matches and used the (German or Polish) word.
Anyway he nearly got into a fight as it was the Russian word for a lady's...er...personal parts!
And our American friends happily talk about a lady's 'fanny', meaning her backside, but we in Australia use that word to mean her, er...., 'frontside' (!!!).
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:44 am
by LWTCS
Recon a Britt would get their eyes scratched out or a kiss asking for a cigarette in wilton manors florida.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:49 am
by The Baker
LWTCS wrote:Recon a Britt would get their eyes scratched out or a kiss asking for a cigarette in wilton manors florida.
(Hope these work, it's my first try at smilies.)
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:49 am
by rad14701
The Baker wrote:And our American friends happily talk about a lady's 'fanny', meaning her backside, but we in Australia use that word to mean her, er...., 'frontside' (!!!).
Actually, here in the US we don't use the word "fanny" very often at all... We simply call the backside an "ass" - not to be mistaken for a domestic farm animal... And we use several different slang terms for the front side, like "pussy" - not to be mistaken for a domestic cat...
Oh, the complexities of international language interpretations...

Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:16 pm
by toofless one
i dont see what the big deal is. my set up is mostly black iron and asbestos for packing. column painted in lead based paints. heated with gasoline. on the carpet. on the kitchen floor. next to the baby crib. with 60 small terriers running about my feet.
no but really, that is a bad setup hes got there. L O V E the steel pipe with steel wool...AKA black iron pipe with filth stuffed inside. makes you wonder if he read any of those books the heat is sitting on.
gives people the wrong impression of our beloved hobby.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:42 pm
by MuleKicker
Maybe this guy made the booze that killed and blinded the people in india............

The whole cigar controvercy back there.....WTF? thats funny.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:56 pm
by blanikdog
Now this is one fool who does believe that one can indeed make a 'silk purse from a sow's ear'. They are around.
blanik
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:10 pm
by Caveguy
I guess his choice of beer says enough.
I'm sure i can make a better still out of my car's exhaust pipe. (filter included)
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:31 pm
by toofless one
Caveguy wrote:I guess his choice of beer says enough.
Me and my dad both agree: Corona tastes like piss smells.
he came out and said it once unprovoked. it was something i always thought. weird.
Re: worst still design known to man " the killer "
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:44 pm
by drunkmore
I think he summed up his own product perfectly. and darwinism needs his address. Quote :Where could I find a high enough concentration of nut-jobs willing to drink this crap? Clearly there was only one thing to do. I grabbed a bottle