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Thanks for all the advice... First one's a success!

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:13 pm
by Byubuk
My first run in the pot still was 12 gallons of sweet feed mash. I didn't have any hydrometers to do the wash, so I just followed the recipe as posted here. It fermented out in 5 days, so I racked it off and put it in the fridge to clear overnight.
I started nice and slow Saturday Morning. Almost forgot, (I Added a thump keg also). I took off about a 1/2 pint of foreshots, then caught the next part of the run in a quart jar. After this was full, I used 1/2 pint jars for the remainder of the run, which took about 5 hours. I could tell when I started getting into the tails, because the product started getting cloudy. Not includung the bad stuff, I distilled 1.5 gallons of nice looking, smelling stuff. By the way my hydrometer arrived Saturday, so I did some testing.
Started off at 180, then dropped down in proof every other pint or so, 170, 160, 150... Towards the end it really started dropping off fast, and I quit at around 60. It was a great learning experience.
Now, the questions!
1. I never could discern any real different smells throughout the run. The only part that really smelled different was the first 1/2 pint, which I discarded. Should I be able to tell when the hearts come through? What smell should I try to notice? All the way until I shut the burner off, everything smelled wonderful. I've read about wet cardboard smell for tails, but I didn't get any of that.

2. I saved 3 gallons of the wash after distilling, and am planning to add this back into my next batch. Can I keep it at room temperature, or should I refrigerate it until I can use it?

3. On average, how long should I let this sit on charred oak chips? I charred some myself (white oak plank) and put 4-5 pieces per quart jar about 2" x 2" x 1/4" in size each, after I cut the proof to around 90.

Once again, thanks for all the information. This place rocks!

Re: Thanks for all the advice... First one's a success!

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:21 pm
by WalkingWolf
congrats on your first run. If you're not real careful, could might get hooked

:wink:

Re: Thanks for all the advice... First one's a success!

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:08 pm
by scarecrow
Byubuk wrote:My first run in the pot still was 12 gallons of sweet feed mash.
Good feeling isn't it. :D
Byubuk wrote:1... different smells throughout the run.
With my poor sense of smell, I find the fores to be the most offensive. I rely on taste more than smell. They will have all the nasties like methanol, acetone, acetates etc that stink like a dead bears bum. They taste like shit as well.
As you move into the heads it should change to a less pungent bitey smell ( but still stinky). With my pottie, heads start at about 82% down to about 78%.
Hearts should have a nice clean "sweet" smell and taste. Very little bite on the tongue. (This is why airing out the jars for a few days helps - it lets the last of the nasties evaporate, leaving the "good stuff").
The sweet spot for my hearts is between about 77% down to 70%. I keep collecting down to 50% and the rest down to 10% is for the feints jar.

I would expect about 1/2 litre of 4's, 1l of heads, 2l hearts, and about 1/2 litre of tails. (emphasis on "about")
Byubuk wrote:Can I keep it at room temperature......
Sure can. Store it in stainless or glass and keep it sealed to stop evaporation. Will keep for ever.
Byubuk wrote:On average, how long should I let this sit on charred oak chips? ..... after I cut the proof to around 90.
Depends what you want. I generally add 2 sticks, 1/2" square by 6" long per litre at 55%.

90 proof is a bit low in my opinion for oaking. You may end up with a stronger "woody" taste than you would like. Average proof would be between 110 - 130.
I age my hooch for a minimum of 3 months (for corn whiskey and rum) but most of my stock is getting up to 12 months and it is just starting to be "dang, that's nice".
Byubuk wrote:This place rocks!
Yeah, that's because of me.









:shock: JK

scarecrow

Re: Thanks for all the advice... First one's a success!

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:39 pm
by blanikdog
Well done byubuk. Be careful or you'll find yourself hooked :)


blanik

Re: Thanks for all the advice... First one's a success!

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:32 am
by Byubuk
Thanks Guys. Got a batch of UJSSM bubbling away as we speak. Also got a 55 gallon drum of molasses and one of raw sugar headed my way. (it's nice to have a pal at a sugar mill)

Re: Thanks for all the advice... First one's a success!

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:11 am
by ScottishBoy
Byubuk wrote:Thanks Guys. Got a batch of UJSSM bubbling away as we speak. Also got a 55 gallon drum of molasses and one of raw sugar headed my way. (it's nice to have a pal at a sugar mill)
blanikdog wrote:Well done byubuk. Be careful or you'll find yourself hooked :)
blanik
Sigh...Too Late! :)

Gratz on the run. I find a good run to be oddly self satisfying. I always get that feeling of 'your arent supposed to be able to do this, but you did'. It makes me feel a little rebellious and a little bit misbehaved.

I like that feeling! Hope you do too!

SB