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Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:51 am
by MuleKicker
So i got a car in here today. Ran fine, check engine lite on. After pokin at it a while I found it had alcohol fuel in it and it wasnt a E85 car. So I pumped some out to test it and the stuff smelled like The heads you get when you start a UJSSM run, with a nice corn smell. Hell, i wanted to give it a taste, It smelled kinda good. No hint of gas in it. I thought what the hell? Talked to the customer and found out he went to a local coop that let you blend yer own alcohol fuel. He filled up with 100% alcohol. Never seen that before. I thought if the fuel industry has to make E100 and it is 100% alcohol, how is there any room left for the corn smell?

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:11 am
by LWTCS
Why the reason is so simple. I'm cornfused that you don't know why Mule........they refined that there fuel wiff a Flute.

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:15 am
by MuleKicker
No no no....... It may be similar, but it aint no flute. still if it be 100% alcohol, where does the smell come from... I wont say flavor cuz i didnt taste it. I was tempted, but i dont drink on the job :lol:

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:55 am
by cob
by definition e100 is azeotrope and contains up to 4.9% distillation by products. your refined and well trained sniffer is detecting the non ethanol leftovers. cob

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:06 pm
by MuleKicker
Thats kinda the answer i was looking for. I just got drinkin on my mind ever since smellin that stuff :?

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:56 pm
by Kentucky shinner
LWTCS wrote:Why the reason is so simple. I'm cornfused that you don't know why Mule........they refined that there fuel wiff a Flute.
:lol: :lol:

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:44 pm
by Husker
MuleKicker wrote:So i got a car in here today. Ran fine, check engine lite on. After pokin at it a while I found it had alcohol fuel in it and it wasnt a E85 car. So I pumped some out to test it and the stuff smelled like The heads you get when you start a UJSSM run, with a nice corn smell. Hell, i wanted to give it a taste, It smelled kinda good. No hint of gas in it. I thought what the hell? Talked to the customer and found out he went to a local coop that let you blend yer own alcohol fuel. He filled up with 100% alcohol. Never seen that before. I thought if the fuel industry has to make E100 and it is 100% alcohol, how is there any room left for the corn smell?
Most of your cheaper vodkas are just this. It is termed GNS (grain neutral spirits). Most of the cheap ones, simply send rail cars, or tanker trucks to ADM or other large manufacturers, fill'm up with GNS, then pay the gooberment their graft (taxes) on it ($13.50 per proof gallon for feds + state taxes), water it down, 'possibly' filter it, then fill up bottles and put them on the shelves. However, something meant for fuel will almost ALWAYS have things in it that will make it unfit for consumption (i.e. DEADLY POISON), so it is not a drinkable product IN ANY WAY. The GNS is the true grain spirit, prior to being destroyed. GNS is also 95% or so, and not 'dried' prior to blending with gas or other petro spirits. I can not see how what you were smelling (that came out of a car's tank), was anything other than poisoned material.

Yep, slightly off topic, but just a 'so now you know' comment.

H.

H.

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:49 pm
by MuleKicker
That is another thing that baffles me. It should be denatured, which should add a very nasty smell to it. Granted it didnt smell wonderful, it still had that corny smell to it. Which i have never smelled in fuel alcohol before.

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:59 am
by Ayay
Possibly the smell molecules can fit in the spaces between the alc molecules so they can sneak through even if the alc measures 100%; or the smell molecules only need to be one in a billion to register as a smell.

Denaturin don't happen in this country. 'Methylated Spirits' is actually 95% ethanol and it's free of smells too. This was done to save the lives of people who will drink denatured regardless.

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:51 am
by Husker
denaturing happens here. Done because the gooberment cares ONLY about its graft, not about the ppl. "Let them eat cake" (or drink poison) is pretty much the mentality.

H.

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:24 am
by Ayay
True Husker. Here the graft is comin to the fore day by day and the ppl are goin backwards. Denaturin was banned long ago and the graft escalates insideously. We are taxed more than $50 many times over and the ppl just complain politely.

We need riotin in the streets but the rioters are easily dumbed down an scared. We aint starvin an the powers can measure our hunger to the finest degree.

Re: Fuel Alcohol

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:13 am
by MuleKicker
it only gonna get worse. You think big goverment gonna let up out of the kindness of their hearts? not F-ing likely. Gonna take a revolution like our ancestors had. Then the process just repeats, and a couple hundred years later yer back to where you started.