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Rum - Just trying to plan ahead here, could be interesting.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:59 pm
by Rocky_Creek
Has anyone ever made a bad rum from molasses, sugar and a few neutrients, that you feel making a better cut would not cure. I can see infection, and feedstock containing execssive urea. I would think rum would be hard to screwup especially if you hjave the volume for the cuts.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:09 pm
by Tater
nope and I agree
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:49 am
by canadianmoonshiner
Nope & that is why I love rum(molasses). It doesn't have that (unexplainable.. citrus???) taste that refined sugar has & doesn't really need nutrient & doesn't benefit much from a 2nd distillation. It's good to go.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:21 am
by Brett
gotta be the easyest thing for a person new to this hobby to try, was for me, cut it to soon n u get a white rum flavour to late n u get a dark rum with lots of flavour.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:47 am
by Don Ventura
Any particular brand/type of molasses you prefere? What is your experiance with brands/types for getting the best results?
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DAMN WHERES THAT RECIPE AGAIN!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:38 pm
by Brett
i go simple
mollases sugar from the local store, not the cheapest but while im making it a gallon mash/bottle of rum at a time it comes out at £1.20 per gallon of mash,,, iv had trouble finding real mollases here in my area
, but until i get my bigger still this way will do for me, makes a damn fine rum.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:15 pm
by canadianmoonshiner
I use Crosby's Fancy Molasses
http://www.molasses.ca onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow Only problem is I can only find 675g cartons & have to buy the whole store every time I stock up. Any Canadians (West Coast) know where to get the 5kg size? I might even be willing to cross the border to Blaine/Bellingham WA.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:04 pm
by Don Ventura
I was thinking of ordering one of these rather then getting something at the local store.
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its that or I start planing my own cane (KIDDING). I actually found someone on Ebay selling Cane seedlings. Thought that was pretty funny. If making molasses wasnt such a pain in the ass I might give it a go.
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DAMN NO GREEN THUMB!!!
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:06 am
by canadianmoonshiner
Don Ventura wrote:its that or I start planing my own cane (KIDDING). I actually found someone on Ebay selling Cane seedlings. Thought that was pretty funny. If making molasses wasnt such a pain in the ass I might give it a go.
lol... unless you're in the tropics you'd have to grow it indoors & risk getting busted by the cops who might think you were running a marijuana grow-op.
Don't think you'd have to go to the extreme of actually processing it into molasses. You could just extract the juice or grind it up.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:07 am
by canadianmoonshiner
damn... double post.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:19 pm
by strangebrew
Actually here in Alabama I see it growing quite a bit. I think I could probably even get the stuff at the farmers market when it comes time for harvesting. I remember as a kid chewing on pieces of the stalk getting all the sweet stuff out of it. It was pretty cool as a kid to be able to hack down and chomp on something that was sweet as sugar.
I have thought about growing a patch in the back pasture but I'm not sure how you would go about extracting all of the juice from it. I imagine it would be a real pain but would make some kick a$$ rum. Makes me drool just thinking about it.
On that note I know that sweet potatoes when they are in their prime can be about as sweet as sugar as well. I wonder if anyone has ever given this a whirl. I bet it would make a interesting & tasty beverage.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:36 pm
by Tater
I know they crush cain to get syurp to make molasses .Wonder if it was put through a chipper if that would bust up stalk enough to fermint out the sugar for rum?
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:58 pm
by strangebrew
Tater-
Now that's an interesting thought. I don't have access to a chipper BUT I would think that if one was to hack up enough cane & split it, and then boil the daylights out of it you would probably end up getting a good portion of the sugar out? I think that it's worth a shot. I can already see a stack of cane on the back porch now and the look on my wifes face.....
After doing a little bit of checking around I found a sugar cane mill in Hartford AL that actually grow & process their own cane. They state on their site that 80 gallons of juice ends up being only 8 gallons of actual sugar cane syrup!
Now that's a whole lot of work!! I wonder though would sugar cane syrup or actuall black strap molasses make for a tastier final product. I am tempted to use feed grade as I'm pretty sure I can it pretty cheap at a feed store around here. One of the few perks to living in a dairy farm rich area.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:08 pm
by Tater
Could allways rent the chipper.I use feed grade all the time and like it,
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:24 pm
by Grayson_Stewart
strangebrew wrote:
After doing a little bit of checking around I found a sugar cane mill in Hartford AL that actually grow & process their own cane. They state on their site ....
Whats the site address for the Alabama cain grower?
raising cane
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:57 pm
by copperhead
i think cane is pressed to get the sap out then boild the sap to get the molasses. remeber waching it being made when i was a kid. tater you should remeber this to.there was a cane mill in traphill.they used horses to press the cane.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:01 am
by strangebrew
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:02 am
by possum
Up here in the mid atlantic area, there is no sugarcane production, but they do grow some sorguhm.
In times past, it was pressed and boiled to make a molassis.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:38 am
by stoker
I think it would be a great experience to make your own molasses, but the cost will be too large (if you want to make more then 100 ml )
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:35 am
by Uncle Remus
canadianmoonshiner wrote:I use Crosby's Fancy Molasses ....
Any Canadians (West Coast) know where to get the 5kg size? I might even be willing to cross the border to Blaine/Bellingham WA.
I bought feed molasses from Master Feeds in AB for $11 per 20kg pail. I'd bet if I put a cup of this molasses and a cup of fancy side by side you couldn't tell me which was which.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:53 am
by golden pond
stoker wrote:I think it would be a great experience to make your own molasses, but the cost will be too large (if you want to make more then 100 ml )
It might not be too bad if a fellow just had to do it him self. Grow your cane, use a lard press to get the juice out and boil it off in a big copper pot. Still much easier to let someone else do the work and buy them.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:57 am
by Tater
Copper head theres still a feller in traphill grows and makes molasses.And yes I know its pressed for molasses. But for rum wouldnt think it have to be . Chipped up and ferminted slow looks to me like it would work. Wasnt meaning to make molasses just fermintin cane juice.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:55 pm
by copperhead
going to start my first bach tommrow ues the same feed store tater dose will let you know how it goes.think im going to try the 24 turbo yeast going to be nice and warm aut to go good.
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:02 pm
by Tater
I just started a rum wash myself but am using distillers yeast.