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Filtering
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:59 pm
by RedRum
How are you guys filtering?
I plan on putting a rinsed charcoal (homemade) into a permanent coffee filter lined with a paper filter.
But I havent even made the damn still yet!

Re: Filtering
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:06 pm
by Prairiepiss
Why are you planning to filter. When you haven't built a still yet? You should be thinking about building a still setup and tried and true recipes that you won't need to filter.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:17 pm
by RedRum
Well, I work as a Liquor Batchmaker. I filter through carbon filters there. and I've seen other distilleries filter similar to what I planned on doing, if I felt it nessasary after a few test batches.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:19 pm
by RedRum
And I just wanted some input on how others were doing it, and if they were at all.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:33 pm
by Coaster
@ RedRum,
If you have a correctly designed Still, operated the Still correctly, prepare and ferment the mash wash correctly there is no need filter the sprit product to obtain a quality sprit product.
Regurds,
Coaster
Re: Filtering
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:56 pm
by bigwheel
After proofing I have been throwing a couple of chunks of washed and dried bbq lump charcoal into quart jars for a few days. Just trying to get some of that old moonshine flavor out of it. This is after the toasted wood chip soak to give it some color and some flavor. Then I strain it through double cheese cloth. Makes it a bit more drinkable I think. Course it could just be my imagination.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:25 pm
by astronomical
my big mouth has no filter and my liver tries to keep up.. when it fails, all the dirty stuff comes pouring out

Re: Filtering
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:47 pm
by RedRum
bigwheel wrote:After proofing I have been throwing a couple of chunks of washed and dried bbq lump charcoal into quart jars for a few days. Just trying to get some of that old moonshine flavor out of it. This is after the toasted wood chip soak to give it some color and some flavor. Then I strain it through double cheese cloth. Makes it a bit more drinkable I think. Course it could just be my imagination.
You might want to throw the charcoal in before the toasted wood soak. The charcoal will remove some color. I'd try it once atleast...
Re: Filtering
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:48 pm
by King Of Hearts
All I use is one unbleached coffee filter after it is done aging to keep the charcoal bits out.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:25 pm
by retlaw
i just put it in the spirits and leave it,
taste it every so often untill you get what you want or can handle,
i had some screw ups that i fixed by leaving the charcoal in it for up to a year,
it was from home made wine that was undrinkable,
Re: Filtering
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:12 pm
by RumBrewer
I made a pretty cool filter out of the tube from a keg.
I turn the dip tube upside down, put the ball in a coffee filter and drop it in. The crimps will hold it from falling through.
Then I fill'er up with carbon... fish tank kind.
After trickling through, it seems to work pretty good.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:29 am
by frozenthunderbolt
RumBrewer wrote:I made a pretty cool filter out of the tube from a keg.
I turn the dip tube upside down, put the ball in a coffee filter and drop it in. The crimps will hold it from falling through.
Then I fill'er up with carbon... fish tank kind.
After trickling through, it seems to work pretty good.
This is not good. fish stuff can have some contaminants that you dont want in spirit grade stuff. Also may not have the correct micro and macro pore sizes to remove the parts that you would want to remove if you are determined to use carbon on your spirits.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:25 am
by moonshine guy
I used carbon filter when I cook with turbo yeast, but I have switch to baker yeast and I have found that you do not need to filter when you cook with baker yeast. The stuff comes out so much cleaner when using bakers yeast.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:58 am
by RumBrewer
frozenthunderbolt wrote:
This is not good. fish stuff can have some contaminants that you dont want in spirit grade stuff. Also may not have the correct micro and macro pore sizes to remove the parts that you would want to remove if you are determined to use carbon on your spirits.
Link to better option?
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:20 am
by white_likker1
RumBrewer wrote:frozenthunderbolt wrote:
This is not good. fish stuff can have some contaminants that you dont want in spirit grade stuff. Also may not have the correct micro and macro pore sizes to remove the parts that you would want to remove if you are determined to use carbon on your spirits.
Link to better option?
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=27971
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:36 am
by fullhouse
Link to better option?
http://www.brewhaus.com/Activated-Carbon-C90.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:37 am
by RumBrewer
Thanks! Just what I was after!
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:53 am
by retlaw
if you buy the small charcoal water filters at most big box stores you can cut off the plastic outsides and you find that they are a pipe shape,
about 1 inch center hole with 1 inch wall tube,
all you need to do is plug the bottom with copper and pour spirits down the center hole,
super fast and easy, and sold almost everywhere,
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:54 am
by Kiwikeg
white_likker1 wrote:RumBrewer wrote:frozenthunderbolt wrote:
This is not good. fish stuff can have some contaminants that you dont want in spirit grade stuff. Also may not have the correct micro and macro pore sizes to remove the parts that you would want to remove if you are determined to use carbon on your spirits.
Link to better option?
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=27971
Thats a nice simple filter white likker but if you could make the spirit enter the bottom and exit at the top like on a parrot it would be more effective as when it runs downwards like you are doing now the spirit tracks through the path of least resistance in the carbon.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:26 pm
by RumBrewer
retlaw wrote:if you buy the small charcoal water filters at most big box stores you can cut off the plastic outsides and you find that they are a pipe shape,
about 1 inch center hole with 1 inch wall tube,
all you need to do is plug the bottom with copper and pour spirits down the center hole,
super fast and easy, and sold almost everywhere,
Not that I'd ever advocate mixing plastic and booze, but Britta Water pitchers are quite effective..... so I've heard.
Side note to that, want to see why you don't mix plastic and booze? Pour 92% alcohol in a britta pitcher. It almost immediately cracks the pitcher. But you could cut open the cartridge and just use the charcoal.
Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:04 pm
by frozenthunderbolt
RumBrewer wrote:retlaw wrote:if you buy the small charcoal water filters at most big box stores you can cut off the plastic outsides and you find that they are a pipe shape,
about 1 inch center hole with 1 inch wall tube,
all you need to do is plug the bottom with copper and pour spirits down the center hole,
super fast and easy, and sold almost everywhere,
Not that I'd ever advocate mixing plastic and booze, but
Britta Water pitchers are quite effective..... so I've heard.
Side note to that, want to see why you don't mix plastic and booze? Pour 92% alcohol in a britta pitcher. It almost immediately cracks the pitcher. But you could cut open the cartridge and just use the charcoal.
Not to be riding your ass here man, but there are also people who have ended up with blue spirits as the booze leached colourings out. The only two possible and acceptable uses for a britta filter are to clean the water that you cut your spirit with, or at the outside as a weird way to buy safe carbon (once you have removed EVERY trace of plastic)

Re: Filtering
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:32 pm
by RumBrewer
frozenthunderbolt wrote:RumBrewer wrote:retlaw wrote:if you buy the small charcoal water filters at most big box stores you can cut off the plastic outsides and you find that they are a pipe shape,
about 1 inch center hole with 1 inch wall tube,
all you need to do is plug the bottom with copper and pour spirits down the center hole,
super fast and easy, and sold almost everywhere,
Not that I'd ever advocate mixing plastic and booze, but
Britta Water pitchers are quite effective..... so I've heard.
Side note to that, want to see why you don't mix plastic and booze? Pour 92% alcohol in a britta pitcher. It almost immediately cracks the pitcher. But you could cut open the cartridge and just use the charcoal.
Not to be riding your ass here man, but there are also people who have ended up with blue spirits as the booze leached colourings out. The only two possible and acceptable uses for a britta filter are to clean the water that you cut your spirit with, or at the outside as a weird way to buy safe carbon (once you have removed EVERY trace of plastic)

That's what I'm saying!
The pitchers are NOT alcohol safe! Not even a little!
Re: Filtering
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:11 pm
by coltrane
Questions.
1.) Is it better to carbon filter 89% ABV and then dilute or the already diluted 43% ABV, or does it not matter?
2.) Does the filtration change the ABV?
3.) Do I have to remove the carbon after use and let it dry out? Or is it OK to leave it in the tube?
4.) How long does the carbon last?
5.) What does the carbon remove ( the stuff I filtered was cloudy and very vanilla, but the filtered spirit was clear tasteless and odorless.) Does any of the properties of the Vanilla and Saffron make it through the filter?
Re: Filtering
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:17 pm
by heartcut
These sites should answer some of your questions.
http://www.carbochem.com/activatedcarbon101.html#Types" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://www.norit-americas.com/carbon-se ... /beverages" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Filtering
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:23 pm
by Prairiepiss
Sounds like a waste of perfectly good and expensive vanilla beans.