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My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:04 pm
by mrwoody1985
Hey guys, running my store bought reflux for the 1st time. I've noticed you guys have taps and gizmos on your stills? Would I benefit putting one on this still? http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l55 ... ction=view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow¤t=0c887cde.jpg&evt=user_media_share

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:45 pm
by mrwoody1985
Ok on closer inspection it's a dumb design. It only has 4x 6mm pipes running straight through the tower column. So there is only 4 'small' sections that are actually cooled inside the column. So from what I read I get this, the steam will pass through 60% of the column not being cooled. And a small percentage will act as reflux, so I've actually only got a complex pot still by the looks of it

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:16 am
by cwalker
just a heads up, but I think your gonna get ragged on for havin that plastic cup as your likker catch. And im guessing all the plastic jugs in the back are for likker too?

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:25 am
by mrwoody1985
cwalker wrote:just a heads up, but I think your gonna get ragged on for havin that plastic cup as your likker catch. And im guessing all the plastic jugs in the back are for likker too?
Yup that is correct lol. I know I've read it so many times about plastic. But at the moment that's all I have (because that's what the knob @ the brew shop sold me haha seen me coming

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:23 am
by Odin
Apart from the plastic vessels, you might want to change the rubber bung for your thermometer ...

What material is your rig made of?

Odin.

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:49 am
by mrwoody1985
Odin wrote:Apart from the plastic vessels, you might want to change the rubber bung for your thermometer ...

What material is your rig made of?

Odin.
the still is completely stainless steel, inside the column is full of stainless steel wool..
what do you use as a thermometer bung? that one is a hardened rubber bung, i am very open to ideas :) thanks

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:25 am
by heartcut
A piece of virgin cork (not glued together) makes a good thermometer grommet, so does a few wraps of teflon tape. If you replace the steel scrubbies with copper, it'll clean the sulphites out of your hootch. That might not be a popular design but they distill liquor.

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:30 am
by Prairiepiss
First off its much easier for everyone else if you just post the pic on HD. Your link is already broken. Here I felt generous.
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Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:33 am
by Prairiepiss
Next see the cm mods link in my signature. Check it out. Yours is a little different than most. But with a little thinking and those mods you can get it working a lot better.

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:23 pm
by mrwoody1985
Prairiepiss wrote:First off its much easier for everyone else if you just post the pic on HD. Your link is already broken. Here I felt generous.
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Thanks heaps for that. I don't know how to do it but I'll try work it out, in regards to the copper being used. Can I replace the steel wool inside the column with copper wool? Would that be sufficient? Here is a pic of what I can get. Ok I can't add pic. I'll try when I get home. I'll try do it on my computer (I'm using iPhone ATM)

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:53 pm
by mrwoody1985
ok so as we know this is my reflux still
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And this is my pot still, they are both inturnaly heated with built in elements,
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i can get some of this stuff from work, should i put it into the column of the reflux still? even just a little bit maybe?
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Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:12 am
by mrwoody1985
i just read your write up on cm stills, great write up might i add, well done....
so that gave me all the info i need, ill be going to hardware store to but ball valves etc this weekend and i wont be adding any of that copper in picture to my still, ill be getting the copper centring ring, so that should hit 2 birds with 1 stone... (copper in reflux column and centring the vapours) i think the 12"extension is out of the question for a while! i cant solder stainless....
:clap: thanks again! :clap:

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:47 am
by heartcut
Sounds like a good plan. If you can get some of that copper mesh at a reasonable price you might want to get it and keep it for later. I prefer the flavor produced by copper mesh over ss, but even if you don't replace it now, you probably will want to replace it eventually (I replace mesh once a year or so). Good luck.

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:29 am
by Prairiepiss
I don't know if you got it or not. But I eluded to some thinking to make them work. With your still the reflux condensers all through the column is a problem. So it mite be best for you to eliminate the lower two through tubes. This would give you a section of packed column that the temp gradient can be established in. I would still do the mods. But I would try a few different combinations on the through tubes. And see if it makes a difference. With your column being so short. You will be limited on what you can get out of it.

Did that make any since?

And I wouldn't count out the copper packing. The stuff in your pic would work good. And placing a centering ring in your column with all those through tubes will not be easy. Or very effective. Being how your bottom through tube is so low in the column.

If it were me? I would get the copper packing. Pack the column up to the top through tube with it. I would not hook up the bottom two tubes. Just run the top two. With the cooling water flow mods. And see what you get. And really consider making a packed extension to go under the one you have. A heat controller for the internal element would be another thing to work on. That would help you dial that thing in.

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:50 pm
by mrwoody1985
Well. I've started with the basic mods and while it doesn't looks pretty it should do the job.
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I also bought a length of copper pipe to run from the catch pipe. (haven't crimped it on yet)

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:20 pm
by Prairiepiss
Looks good. But you mite find that valve will be hard to control? Maybe not?

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:00 am
by mrwoody1985
Prairiepiss wrote:Looks good. But you mite find that valve will be hard to control? Maybe not?
Yeah I haven't run it yet but I will be trying to get a needle valve for the column cooling but haven't been able to find one yet

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:40 pm
by mrwoody1985
K well I've now got a full roll of this copper mesh Image
Next question would be how tightly do I pack the column? Leave it slightly loose or completely packed in there?

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:49 pm
by Prairiepiss
You don't want it loose. Bit you don't want it to tight. You want it tight enough it will hold itself in place. Bit loose enough that you can breath freely through it. It's really kind of hard to explain.

Re: My store bought still needs to be pimped

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:30 am
by mrwoody1985
Prairiepiss wrote:You don't want it loose. Bit you don't want it to tight. You want it tight enough it will hold itself in place. Bit loose enough that you can breath freely through it. It's really kind of hard to explain.
makes perfect sense bud, thanks.. ill be doing this tomorrow arvo, ill also be trying to find someone to add 12'' into the column, is 12" enough or should i pop more in? its no problem either way, 12" or 24" is no drama, what ever works best!