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I have made maybe 6 or 7 gallon batches of apple pie. My recipie is in a lower batch half gallon cider- 1/4 cup brown sugar- two tablespoons vanilla and quart of apple juice. Bring to heat untill foam starts. Cool and stir back in foam. In quart size 8 oz spirit. And top off with cider. Recently i had a batch start to seperate. Like a clowdy layer at bottom. Never had this happen before. Same recipie every time. Is it a bad batch of cider etc. thanks

That has happened to me befor too when using juice concentrate. I dont know for a fact but i think its from the juice/cider not being perfectly cleared/filtered and then the impurities? reacting with the alcohol...

I hope you dont mind me tagging along on yer thread, but my question is this... Can the alcohol react with the juice/cider to prduce heads? Methanol or acetal acetate? I make tight cuts on neutrals because i hate headaches. Well, last night i had a few glasses of apple pie that i had made about a week ago. I had drank some of that batch when i first made it with no headach problem. But aftera week of setting on the counter (reacting?), and a few drinks last night, I woke this morning to a slight headach... Ive read that methanol is produced in higher amounts by fruit like apples, could the alcohol be reacting with the juice somehow? Maybe I was just dehydrated...

I did use a diff brand apple juice. Maybe that was my problem. Maybe it was from concentrate and caused it to react with alcohol. Ill just start over using cider alone. The problem i have with cider straight is the thickness. And nope tag right along no worries.

I believe you will fiend "apple consecrate" this is uncleared apple juice and can have sediment,,apple "juice consecrate" has been cleared,it wont have sediment,,BUT it depends how it was cleared.
some filter witch is fine,some use pectic enzymes and this creates methanol.yes if you drink juice that has been cleared with enzymes it has methanol..its not just apple but other juice drinks as well.
now some recommended fruit juice with the pulp , but not always true either, as some are making juice with enzymes and then adding fiber.this goes for other drinks like orange as well.the juice with pulp mite have been made with enzymes (they git more juice and is easier to produce) then add fiber witch mite be processed sawdust?

do you have an update on this topic. i find it interesting and looking ofrward in trying it out
thanks

The only thing i came up with was that because i used a juice from concentrate instead of 100% juice that when the alcohol was added it caused the juice and cider to seperate. Or at least the pulp from the cider. As far as taste. It had no affect. If this happens to you like a lot of drinks shake well before drinking. Another thing i wanted to ask about figured i may as well. I bought a soda stream carbonator. Wonder how that would do with straight corn whiskey?? Any add ons feel free

Iv had seperation with some 100% apple juice stuff mainly cider. I think the alcohol maybe separates the tiny solids. I just give it a shake and it tastes great. I don't know if this helps but it's what happened to me

what is your spirit percentage when u mix it with cider or juice i got 180 is that too much

I usually add around 8-10 oz per quart at 50-70%. Never tried using a proof tralle on it afterwards. Just by taste

is that recipe with cider an apple juice or just apple juice it sounds good.

With just cider it is kinda thick. I add juice for extra sweetness and to thin it a little. Maybe 4 oz of juice per qt

Try it lemme know what you think

If you expect the same thing every time you mash, your crazy! enviorment has too much in plac to ferment. make good wine, first!!!!

half a gallon of cider right

Eady Creek wrote:If you expect the same thing every time you mash, your crazy! enviorment has too much in plac to ferment. make good wine, first!!!!

Whats that all about? We are talking final product added to cider

I usually make the cider part first then just mix it in a quart jar. Thats 24 oz cider mix to @8 oz spirit. In my opinion the longer you let it mellow the better the taste. Half gallon makes @ 3 qts of pie or thereabouts

cool thanks tvdawgs ima try it out here very soon and get back to on it to let you know how it turned out.

just wanted to get back with and let you know that apple pie is awsome

Sweet deal. Glad you enjoy it