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Freezing Mash

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:24 pm
by Rotgut
Does freezing mash produce a drinkable product? Ive been doing this in one of my freezers and it seems to work but havent tried it yet. It seems like you would get the foreshots along with your product. Someone please clue me in.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:52 pm
by Ricky
you will have a combination of all of the stuff that your freezer wont freeze. probably will taste like sh--! freezing works good for stripping then you can throw the higher proof stuff in the still and get something close to a second run product. would save a lot of time.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:55 pm
by Rebel_Yell
How do you define drinkable?
I say NO. Not drinkable by my standards...
Here's a read on it...
http://homedistiller.org/notstill.htm

Read the whole site. It has many wonderful answers to your questions.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:09 pm
by TRANSPLANTED HILLBILLY
Its called jacking. There your taste buds, try it and tell us what you think.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:53 pm
by drunk2much
i have often wonder how fris vodka ( its freeze distilled) is produce if they strip it first then go to frezzing or if they freeze to start and filter out the nasties

http://frisvodka.com/

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:00 pm
by Rotgut
that fris stuff looks pretty good anybody know how much a bottle is?

just had a sip of what i froze and i would not consider it 'drinkable' ill just leave that jar for when guests come over

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:13 pm
by possum
If you use liquid Nitrogen, you could get the high proof to freeze.
You still wouldnt get good cuts, unless there was some kind of difference in adsorption or absorbtion in activated carbon. Multiple filtrations of 50%abv with carbon is reputed to clean up some comercial vodkas.

Liquid Nitrogen is Quite expensive too.
Just my $.02

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:36 pm
by drunk2much
fris is about 17-22 for a fith, not bad i though it was a good vodka you should be able to find it is pertty common

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:17 am
by chillyp
I've been freezing my wash in 1 gallon buckets and then using a strainer and funnel to collect the alcohol that drips out. Then when I complete this for the 5 gallon batch I run it through the still. I haven't had any problems and the product taste pretty clean for vodka.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:55 am
by jake
I to have frozen a mash to strip it before distilling. works well if you have a small still and a large frezzer. used a 5gal bucket and a strainer lined with cheese cloth to separate the slush.

Re: Freezing Mash

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:55 am
by crtbc
When you freeze the mash after it is done fermenting, and you collect what drips out like listed on the parent site for doing this and a good rule of thumb for foreshots is 200mL for 5 gallons of mash from what I heard..... no obviously you can run 2 if not 3 or more runs in your boiler doing it this way on the FIRST RUN WITH HEAT so you are basically condensing runs or stripping using the freezer....2 questions

A) is this only best for neutrals or will the flavors still carry over that you would want for rums or whiskeys?

B) For EACH 5 gallons that you stripped using the freezer you have to collect an additional 200mL of fores before even starting to collect heads etc to keep.... ie.if you strip 10 gallons using the freezer you should collect 400mL of fores and remove/discard/label as weedkiller

are the assumptions of A and B correct?

Re: Freezing Mash

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:14 am
by rad14701
crtbc, you don't collect any more of any specific cut if you're running jacked wash... But the point is that jacking is very inefficient to begin with which is why it is not a recommended practice here in these forums... You not only lose a lot of water, but also lose a lot of alcohol... Your time and efforts would be better spent refining your distillation methods... If you didn't have a still and just wanted a cheap headache laced buzz then it might be an option... But if you have the still then just use it... If jacking was effective and efficient then everyone would be doing it, right...??? It's not, so they don't...

This subject is cyclic... We no more than get people convinced to scrap the idea and then some new member brings it up all over again...

Re: Freezing Mash

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:27 am
by Prairiepiss
Two this week.

Re: Freezing Mash

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:34 pm
by crtbc
sorry.... but on the brighter side it proves I have been using the search button and reading the parent site :clap: like everyone reccommends as evident by the last post in this thread being from '07 LOL