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Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:41 pm
by Cutt
I made my first run with a thumper. The shine burns true blue in the spoon, no yellow at all. Smells like a caramel vodka I had once. The weird thing is I fill a teaspoon to taste it, slurp it in with some air and it melts away. Spoon's empty, no liquid in my mouth and I can feel the heat, but its not bad. I tried to spit it out cuz I'm trying to learn to make cuts. Nothing spits out. Anyone else have this happen?
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:48 pm
by junkyard dawg
well, yeah...
don't get carried away experiencing that tho....
it'll hurt a lot a little later...
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:51 pm
by FullySilenced
Ha, if you remember it... if your running 14% mash, in a 15 gallon keg, and taste a teaspoon each jar you can be one snockered fool at the end of the run if you making 180+ proof product...
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:02 pm
by Cutt
Still spitting out as much as I can. Drinking plenty of water. Really trying to learn this to make some good tasting recipe. It'll get you high quick, but the older I get the more its about the ride. Not so much the destination.
Thx guys.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:00 pm
by DuckofDeath
High proof ethanol will take the white off your teeth... Just saying
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:35 pm
by frozenthunderbolt
DuckofDeath wrote:High proof ethanol will take the white off your teeth... Just saying
And the skin off your throat
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:18 pm
by drinkingdog
I thought this was a m & m commercial. You better be mixing those tasters with water about equal parts would be good especially if you are refluxing
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:07 pm
by Cutt
Using a SS pot, two pieces of copper, a 1/2 gal glass pickle jar as a thumper and a cat litter bucket as a water cooler. The wash is a second run of corn, sugar and raisin mash. I've gotten rot gut bathtub type crap before. My last run was decent, but this one caught me by surprise. I'm just tasting for cuts only. Spitting out what goes in like a two dollar whore. This stuff absorbs, or what I'm calling "melts", quickly. I won't temper this run for a few weeks at least. Let alone drink it yet. I wad just wondering if others have had this phenomenon while doing cuts.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:32 pm
by Da Yooper
Tell me you didn't say GLASS THUMPER, loose the glass. More reading and less distilling needs to be done before you proceed at this hobbie. Safety first and no short cuts.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:39 pm
by Dan P.
It just means that it is very high proof. I would not advise even tasting it, it is not good for you and your palletwill be so burned (and you will be so intoxicated), that your ability to make and understand cuts will be massively compromised.
Better, collect in small increments, and come back to it when the run is done. Mix samples with water.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:24 am
by Ayay
"Melt in the mouth" should mean the purest of hearts with no bite, along with great mouth-feel. This happens below 60%ABV and after the real cuts and ageing are done...achievable at great co$t in bottleshops, or right here in your own hobbyfarm. Only a few of these will pass the hangover test and they'r priceless.
Tasting high proof is not making cuts. You miss out on those subtle differences that only appear after a day or two of airing, and diluting to 20-30%ABV for tasting. Tasting high proof in the 90's% involves inhaling as much as drinking and sure it melts and disappears same as meths and rubbing alc...just don't do it on your tongue.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:50 pm
by Cutt
Yes, I use a glass thumper. It's just a pickle jar with two holes cut in the lid and towels wrapped around it to keep the heat in and make it work better. I charged it with the runs I previously made. I read this on the parent website as I read alot of information on this subject. I also watch a lot of videos too, so I did miss the part about airing out the recipe before mixing with water and making cuts. It's a hobby. I'll get better.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:06 pm
by Pesty
Cutt wrote:Yes, I use a glass thumper. It's just a pickle jar
You want some information.. go ahead and google this..
Thermal Downshock
Then come back and tell us why it's not ok to use a glass pickle jar as your thumper
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:21 pm
by Cutt
Sorry, I already made two runs with no problems. You should instruct the parent site to revise their information as well.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:33 pm
by Pesty
Cutt wrote:Sorry, I already made two runs with no problems.
head down to walmart, get yourself a cheap stainless 8 or 12 qt stockpot, don't tell me it's to expensive, and cut some holes in the lid.. same thing as your pickle jar.. only now it's SAFE.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:23 am
by Cutt
Thanks, I had planned on doing that already. Just had the jar handy and put it to use. I'm not trying to get complicated with this.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:12 am
by OBX Phantom
Glass is not a good idea because the shrinking and swelling from the heat and, cold will break the glass, causing it to spill hot FLAMABLE alcohol everywhere, not to mention the glass, and mess it will make
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:25 am
by googe
Cutt wrote:Sorry, I already made two runs with no problems. You should instruct the parent site to revise their information as well.
Already did mate. Good to see a reference to what I ment though
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 33&t=40439
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:07 am
by Cutt
With a system that goes from hot to cold breakage can occur. Scratches, cracks, etc, can also cause breakage. I guess I didn't see a problem cause I've also done pressure canning at temps well above what I run my pot still at. I can, in glass jars, at over 212 under 15lbs of pressure. My pot still never got that hot.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:59 am
by Pesty
In the end Cutt.. it comes down to the contents IN the glass in the event of a glass failure, Strawberry jam isn't flammable, your shine run is.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:59 pm
by Cutt
So how many glass thumpers have busted and burned the kitchen up?
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:21 am
by cornsqueezer
You can lead a Horse to water , but you can't make him drink.
These guys have given you good advice about not using glass.
I also would advise not using it, so when that day comes and "Murphy"
pays a visit you will know what we were talking about.
Oh then you can post in the "tell us about your mistakes" sticky.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:35 am
by theholymackerel
Cutt wrote:Sorry, I already made two runs with no problems. You should instruct the parent site to revise their information as well.
The parent site is not under our control, like the forum is.
The parent site started decades ago as a simple project to pull together any and all info about distillation. The good and the bad also.
This forum is much more selective. We are trying to pull all the GOOD info together and share info. Using a glass pickle jar as a thumper is a BAD idea. And is not something that should be treated as ok... we try hard to weed out dangerous practices. Newbs have a hard enough time getting up to speed without being encouraged to do dangerous practices.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:05 pm
by Cutt
No, glass isn't a good idea. I'll cutt my chances, third times the charm right, and retire it. I'm not about causing a stir. I just used what I had on hand. It worked like champ both times. No excuse for using it other than novice enthusiasm.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:23 am
by Gaztops
There was some guy on here, a Medical Student , was using a glass carboy as a boiler.
A load of people screamed at him not to use glass, but this guy new better.
The end of the story is......One shattered carboy and one badly burned Med Student.....ironic isn't it.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:08 am
by Cutt
I'm not advocating using glass. So don't blow me up. Thermal shock is the down fall of the med student's case. Why he was spraying water on the tubing I have no idea. If you take a hot glass casserole, which is made for high temps, and put it in cold water it will crack.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:43 am
by stairman
note to self:
next time a doctor walks in and has burn scars ask him how he /she got them before letting him /her work on me
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:53 pm
by Cutt
I have to listen to doctors and follow their orders. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Re: Shine that "melts" in your mouth?
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:52 am
by googe
It could be as simple as your coolent line springing a leak for some unforsean season and splashing on the glass, simple small accident with a bad outcome.