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Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:46 pm
by Odin
Under development ... but almost ready to go:
Our all new SPP machine!
Spring loaded & computer controlled. For 100% identical production for each and every spring.
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:21 pm
by F6Hawk
Looks like that one piece is a tad out alignment, Odin...
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:22 pm
by Jimbo
That dont look like a hoochie making contraption! Is that some kind of new fangled 'Pure Whiskey' wizbanger Odin???
Does it drill 4 dimensional wormholes in ordinary wretched potstill likker to cleans its filthy profligate soul?
stainless spiral packing maker?
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:56 pm
by Black Eye
I think I spot the flux capacitor.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:09 pm
by Richard7
Do you have a close up of the finished SSP?
I'd love to see that thing run.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:17 pm
by Jkhippie
Looks like the inside of a Flux Capacitor.
<edit> fell asleep before I could click submit. Should drink and post in the daytime.
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Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:12 pm
by Jkhippie
Looks like the inside of a Flux Capacitor.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:06 pm
by blind drunk
Looks like it's ready to go, far as I can tell
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Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:29 pm
by midwest shinner
Damn Odin. And to think of the equipment old timers used to make their likker. Sooo can you build me a time machine too then? Some history i would like to alter for sure... Honestly i am very impressed, how long you been working on that?
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:58 pm
by Odin
Sorry guys, the time machines we build only go fast forward to the distant future!
I'll post some pictures of the SPP it produces in a day or two. First tests show we will be getting closer to 2 than 3 centimeters in HETP ...
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:58 pm
by F6Hawk
Pics hell, I want to see a video! I can see the automation of the spinning process... does that thing cut to specified length as well?
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:28 am
by 1bottler
doubt the efficacy of that coil to handle 3kw element
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Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:43 am
by Odin
Bottler, not sure if that's what you mean, but SPP can manage 3 KW.
Hawk, vids ... maybe in the future. And yes, length can be dialed in exactly.
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:37 am
by Black Eye
Time machines that only go in the future haha. I drank one of them not to long ago... Next thing I know it's the next morning but I don't know where the night before went.
Very nice Odin. Can't wait to see what else you have up your sleeve.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:48 am
by Odin
Okay, some more "up the sleeve" stuff:
The above type is what some people sell or make themselves. The two treads in the middle is our all new computer control manufactured SPP. Test treads that are not cut yet.
The difference between the two? Surface areas are pretty much the same for both the top tread and the two treads in the middle, but gass flow is 400% bigger on the treads in the middle.
O, and cuts (on the SPP) will be made between "rings". That way the exact shape isn't compromized.
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:03 am
by Oxbo Rene
Looks like the inside of a Flux Capacitor to me .........
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:22 pm
by Odin
Oxbo,
Maybe a REflux capacitator?
Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:34 pm
by Oxbo Rene
LOL ........
You got it goin Odin ! ! ! !
Keep on keepin on ! ! ! ! !
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:00 pm
by Odin
Okay, you want me to keep it going? Here we go. Brace yourselfs, my friends ... the world as you thought you know it will never be the same again ...
Hammer time ...
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:02 pm
by Jimbo
I think I just got wood
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:19 pm
by Odin
No.
The iStill 50 gives wood.
This first picture of the iStill 50 VISION is ... imagine that threesome with those blonde twins? Well, it turns out they actually had another sister ... and she wants in.
And this is just a first picture. Imagine what else can be made "visible" as well. Why? Because it will be.
Regards, Odin.
PS: I hear there are still a few plane tickets to Holland left ...
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:33 pm
by Odin
Update: Hawk, I expect to make a first vid this weekend.
The stakes are high.
I remember having a dog fight (shit fight?) with a guy pretending to understand SPP's mysterious ways. And then I told him I felt the success of SPP could not - in my meager opinion - be explained by the normal gass/fluids dynamics described on for instance the parent site. I felt the only way the increadible low HETP of SPP could be explained was by seeing re-distillations happening within an SPP filled column as being part of a semi-fluidized bed. Not gasses rising up and meeting some packing that's wet with like one molecular layer of liquid, but rather gasses travelling up through a (semi) aquatic environment. Closer to the bubble action you see present on a perforated plate. Only all the way.
Let's find out. The vid should tell us. And if I am proven wrong ... shit. I might have to delete the vid.
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:28 am
by F6Hawk
Post it! They will come...
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:55 am
by Odin
From SPP machine to SPP ... a small step and not too far off topic, I hope.
I am shooting a video as we speak. On a run with a 2 inch diameter column with 120 centimeters of SPP packing. Throwing 2 KW at it. At what? Well, at a combination of a cornflakes wash of around 10% and a rye UJ I ran through the potstill progrram of my iStill first. Total amount in the boiler is about 35 liters at 30%.
Just to give you some results: I am currently collecting 3.5 liters per hour at 95%+.
Totally amazed.
Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:43 am
by midwest shinner
Wow man, that is some serious production. Especially at near azeotrope, you are making me want to order up some SPP.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:05 am
by Odin
What? You didn't order yet? Just kidding!
It's actually not near but at azeotropic abv, Midwest!
I think what my numbers show is not something one can reach with every still. It's the integrated design (all specifications in tune) as well as the automation (column beeing filled and then depleted - run/stop/run process) that's responsible. But it does show how well SPP can work in an optimized setting. Gains compared to scrubbies in a manually controlled LM or VM are pretty impressive too, I am sure. Three times more redistillations in the same amount of packing means you can run the rig harder without contaminating hearts.
I hope DAD can give us his numbers on his 3 incher. I remember those were pretty awesome too!
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:30 am
by midwest shinner
Honestly i would have already ordered but I've been going back and forth between dropping the cash on that or trying out some lava rock. The only benefit i can see without testing is that lava rock is uber cheap and supposedly works great. So Odin have you been strictly using your iStill or do you still run a manually controlled rig?
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:12 am
by Odin
I still have a few rigs that are manually controlled, but ... I actually do not really use the anymore ...
I think the lava rock will serve you well! And if it does not suit you, you can always upgrade to SPP.
Regards, Odin.
Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:46 pm
by wv_cooker
Nice work Odin, but hurry up we need vids of liquid flowing through glass and wetting SPP. You know anxious folks can't wait.
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Re: Developing a new SPP Machine
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:02 pm
by kerberos
How does the size of this SPP compare to your current one Odin? Is the 400% increase in efficiency due to the shape following the russian patent or is it one of your own designs? and when can i buy some
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