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Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:41 am
by kerberos
Hi, can not find any information on this item.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/flexible-copp ... 0mm/61598#
Could i use two of these as my internal tube on a Liebig condenser? I was thinking that the ridge nature would be beneficial in increased area for condensate and in contact with the water jacket.
Thank you
Kerberos
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:45 am
by BentJar
I think its too large in diameter, also be difficult or imposible to find fitting for the outside tube that fit properly.
It would be cheaper and easier to use 1/2 inner and place a copper wire spring inside to create more surface area for cooling the sprits.
You can do a lot with copper tho... so whatever floats ur bubble
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:24 am
by kerberos
Hi Bentjar, the ends are standard 15 mm dimensions and designed for connection to other standard fittings. Each end has a couple of inches of straight pie for this very reason, I was building a Leibig with 15mm internal and 22mm jacket as used elsewhere on this site. When i saw this i thought it may make a good replacement for the normal 15mm straight pipe. I am assuming from your comments that 15mm is too large for a liebig then?
Thank you for the reply.
Kerberos
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:57 am
by Prairiepiss
15 mm is your equivalent to 1/2" is it not? That would work good for a inner tube of a condenser. But at 300mm its awfully short for a liebig. That's approx one foot. Don't know how big a still you are making. But it would take two or three of them to make a good length liebig condenser.
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:01 am
by kerberos
Hi Prairepiss,
yes one would be too short which is why i mentioned two in my original post
The still i am going for is a boka LM/VM combo so the Liebig is for the product condenser. Question is, would there be a benefit in using 600mm of this type of tube instead of normal straight pipe. Has anyone used this type before? Thank you for your reply.
Kerberos
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:27 am
by Jimbo
Im a fan of keeping things simple. Since youd have to splice 2 of them, minimum, and youre paying more for the flex to begin with, why bother. Get a chunk of 15mm straight, pull a length of copper wire out of a chunk of romex, and call it a day
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Cheaper, less fuss and you make the size you need.
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:29 am
by heartcut
The non linear shape would cause pooling and smearing in a liebeg if used off vertical. With the thin wall it would make a fine graham condensor inner spiral. I've seen 2 foot long sticks in the local hardware stores.
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:32 am
by YHB
I am sure that the two or more sticks joined together would do the job that you want them to do. I would think that the lieberg would have to be more or less vertical to prevent the condensate pooling in the corrugations.
I use a vertical lieberg on my LM / VM head and to get the additional contact that you are looking for I crimped the inner tube with a pair of mole grips ( Vice grips ). It is working fine and was a lot cheaper than the sticks you are contemplating using.
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:37 am
by Prairiepiss
He is talking a VM only condenser. Most of which are vertical. So pooling wouldn't be a problem.
Two could be fine? Depends.
But I do agree. Kiss. You could build the same thing with regular 15mm. Add a swirly piece of copper in it. And get the same outcome. Probably cheaper.
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:55 am
by kerberos
Thank you for all the replies guys. KISS seems to be the order of the day
Kerberos
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:04 pm
by heynonny
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=12059
I also made one with just one section of flex, it works just fine. Also. "I use the second, smaller one almost exclusively, it really works well." -hey-
Re: Flexible copper plumbing stick
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:10 pm
by kerberos
Hi hey, I found your post very informative thank you. The cost for two of the sticks is six pounds or about 10 dollars so not expensive and after reading your post I think I will be giving it a go. Thank you for your reply. Kerberos.