Trading for a used still legal?

[CanadianBacon]

I got a offer to trade a broken down car for a large used still... Is it legal to accept and trade for the used still., I live in canada

[just sayin]

Only if it is legal for you to own a still in Canada. It is not legal in the US, at least most of the US.

[Reader]

I live in Georgia, USA. Last year the Tap water was so horrible that I decided to distill my water and bought a 5 Gallon SS Still after I contacted the TTB about the laws in GA and owning a still of just 1 Gallon size was just impractical.
I do not have the exact quote from the emails handy for this post but the jest of the conversation was that I am permitted to own a Still in GA.
At first, I was told it is Illegal to own a still because the guy thought I wanted to make Alcohol. He sent me an email with the exact law pertaining to owning a Still.
After I read the law carefully, It is written in the form that a first read through indicates it is Illegal but with careful reading a second time it is worded in such a way that is undeniably legal to own one but must not be used for making alcohol without the proper permits. Furthermore, I was not limited to a 1 Gallon size as in the example supplied.
The man at the TTB that I was in contact with informed me that the 1 gallon size was used as an example in the text because of the way it is worded.
I would need to Register my Still if it was "Setup" for the purpose of making Alcohol and would also need to have the proper Permits for using the Still to make Alcohol.
"Setup" is loosely defined as being assembled and sitting on top of a burner or other means of applying heat for the purpose of making Alcohol.

After I carefully read the Law the TTB provided and asking direct questions pertaining to the Law the TTB provided I was sent a response in my email that basically read like this:
'You are correct, you are not limited to a 1 gallon size Still, you do not need to register your Still even if it is Setup, provided that Alcohol is not a product coming out of the end, it would be upon the TTB to prove that upon discovery that it was producing Alcohol.'
I was satisfied with the answers directly from the TTB so I purchased a 5 Gallon SS Still and I use it for Distilling my own Water. I am completely legal in owning it and operating for any purpose I choose so long as Alcohol is not in it or being produced by it.

I wish I had the emails handy here for exact quoting, but if your bent on knowing for yourself then you need to contact the Authority that enforces the Laws and ask your direct question to them. Be clear and specific about your intention when you ask your questions, they will give you the direct answers pertaining to your specific question.

As a side note.. I do not show off my Still, I do not Talk about my Still to friends or Family, and I do not use it in any production of Alcohol. I keep it dissassembled in seperate rooms and closets of the house and only assemble it when I need it. This eliminates the problems that Ignorance of people can cause to me because looking at a Still,.. people will automatically assume it is for illegal purposes which is not always the case.

[Reader]

It is a matter of the Housing Facility that I live, it is rented and I am not permitted to make modifications to the House or property. I will not run to the store to buy distilled water like the thousand others that got their before me and the store sold out of water in an hour.
It's all about being prepared to survive that minor problem or a catastophy that makes drinking water a commodity.
You realise how many people are literally fighting with other people to buy all the cases of water they can handle and get it home before the "next" guy?
This was the reason for the Still and It has the obvious added bonuses associated with having one.

[epicdoom]

I live in Georgia, USA. Last year the Tap water was so horrible that I decided to distill my water and bought a 5 Gallon SS Still after I contacted the TTB about the laws in GA and owning a still of just 1 Gallon size was just impractical.
I do not have the exact quote from the emails handy for this post but the jest of the conversation was that I am permitted to own a Still in GA.
At first, I was told it is Illegal to own a still because the guy thought I wanted to make Alcohol. He sent me an email with the exact law pertaining to owning a Still.
After I read the law carefully, It is written in the form that a first read through indicates it is Illegal but with careful reading a second time it is worded in such a way that is undeniably legal to own one but must not be used for making alcohol without the proper permits. Furthermore, I was not limited to a 1 Gallon size as in the example supplied.
The man at the TTB that I was in contact with informed me that the 1 gallon size was used as an example in the text because of the way it is worded.
I would need to Register my Still if it was "Setup" for the purpose of making Alcohol and would also need to have the proper Permits for using the Still to make Alcohol.
"Setup" is loosely defined as being assembled and sitting on top of a burner or other means of applying heat for the purpose of making Alcohol.

After I carefully read the Law the TTB provided and asking direct questions pertaining to the Law the TTB provided I was sent a response in my email that basically read like this:
'You are correct, you are not limited to a 1 gallon size Still, you do not need to register your Still even if it is Setup, provided that Alcohol is not a product coming out of the end, it would be upon the TTB to prove that upon discovery that it was producing Alcohol.'
I was satisfied with the answers directly from the TTB so I purchased a 5 Gallon SS Still and I use it for Distilling my own Water. I am completely legal in owning it and operating for any purpose I choose so long as Alcohol is not in it or being produced by it.

I wish I had the emails handy here for exact quoting, but if your bent on knowing for yourself then you need to contact the Authority that enforces the Laws and ask your direct question to them. Be clear and specific about your intention when you ask your questions, they will give you the direct answers pertaining to your specific question.

As a side note.. I do not show off my Still, I do not Talk about my Still to friends or Family, and I do not use it in any production of Alcohol. I keep it dissassembled in seperate rooms and closets of the house and only assemble it when I need it. This eliminates the problems that Ignorance of people can cause to me because looking at a Still,.. people will automatically assume it is for illegal purposes which is not always the case.

Be careful here there is much to be debated here. first as I read it its pretty clear that only 1 gallon stills are permitted. at no point in the text is there any reference to 1 gallon stills being used as an example. The biggest mistake is believing something told to you in an email you need to have that information on stationary directly from the TTB that would show the laws pertaining to still size and then a ruling from the official that the size was an example and permission granted to you for ownership of a larger unit to distill water.
I'm not trying to scare you but this has been an issue with much of the code written misinterpretation is a big problem as we have a tendency to read into something different then someone else may, this has happened many times and rarely ends well. I remember several folks saying they had over the phone or internet permission from BATF to remake damaged firearms suppressor parts without having to buy another tax stamp only to find themselves in a serious legal battle. I assure you any part that would need replaced constitutes a new suppressor and therefore requires purchase of another TAX stamp. Unless you have a signed letter on stationary from the agency stating other then the written law as it reads you may be sorely disappointed at any legal proceedings. Even then the only leg you have to stand on may be kicked out from under you. I'm not saying that any agency does this to set people up what I'm saying is that one man reads the law different then another sometimes.

[skow69]

I do not show off my Still, I do not Talk about my Still to friends or Family, and I do not use it in any production of Alcohol..

Why do you read this forum?

[Ayay]

Used or new - makes no difference. Possessing a still is where it's at in the final analysis according to current folklore.

Where you got it may lead directly to you. If you got it by the purchase of miscellaneous bits and pieces then you're more likely to succeed.

[Doogie]

OP - according to the exise act of Canada, it is illegal to own a still. Trading for it will not make it legal, as the exise act does not allow ownership rights if you dont pay for it.

[T-Pee]

I do not show off my Still, I do not Talk about my Still to friends or Family, and I do not use it in any production of Alcohol..

Why do you read this forum?

I thought it was like a shooter saying "I don't own any guns" when on a gun forum ( ) but I guess not.

tp

[skow69]

Yeah, camoflauge would have made sense until he started poking sticks at the TTB. I wonder how many lists that got his name onto.