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LOL Normandie , that ones pretty hard to beat .
WTF Salty I’d like to see that one on stamp collecting forum
WTF Salty I’d like to see that one on stamp collecting forum
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Its just the truth Yummy, Ive wanted to type that for a very long time, but haven't ......every single time I see a newb saying they want to buy a super cheap still ........just to see how the hobby works.
I can see how/what they are thinking , but in reality it makes no sense at all.
You and I both started out with store bought stills that where far from perfect.....but they were a hell of a lot better to learn on than this current crop of cheap shit.
Would we have gone the same route had we been warned by people who knew good from bad? Or might it have scared us away from the hobby totally .......its a fine line I guess.
I can see how/what they are thinking , but in reality it makes no sense at all.
You and I both started out with store bought stills that where far from perfect.....but they were a hell of a lot better to learn on than this current crop of cheap shit.
Would we have gone the same route had we been warned by people who knew good from bad? Or might it have scared us away from the hobby totally .......its a fine line I guess.
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Haa haa , I’d almost put this up for N&Q too Salty , but its surely unfair to double dipSaltbush Bill wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 am You and I both started out with store bought stills that where far from perfect.....but they were a hell of a lot better to learn on than this current crop of cheap shit.
But I totally agree .These cheap arse Chinese shit boxes are an embarrassment to the hobby .
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It's funny. I nearly bought one (well, an unbadged one direct from China) and the fact that it was a possibility and that I had a price gave me a budget. Then I read a little here (which I found via a site which is a translation of HD into French) and discovered I could build a keg still and liebig for around the same price as a crappy vevor.Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:41 am You and I both started out with store bought stills that where far from perfect.....but they were a hell of a lot better to learn on than this current crop of cheap shit.
So I was one of the lucky ones!
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Stonecutter wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:56 pmI think the one question you should be asking yourself is…. “Now where the hell is that search function?”
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Its a long one but I think it belongs here. Well put Yummy.
Laredo7mm wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:52 am
It is interesting that some people here have no problem using a hydrometer, but shun the use of a thermometer.
That kinda implies that “Some People here” would have a black and white approach to using anything that takes measurements .
That is far from the truth .
Those people have spent real time in their sheds doing many more fermentations and distillations than I bet you have done .
They have watched thermometers for countless hours and realised , they give no useful info that running a hand over their still can provide .
They have realised that a hydrometer is a useful tool for calculating potential Alc and watching fermentation progression .
They have realised that an Alc meter is far more accurate than throwing a teaspoon of liquor in a fire . ….. and safer .
They have worked out that using a thermometer to keep a fermentation at an optimum temp will produce a better product .
They have realised that using a thermometer to monitor mashing temp is vital to getting optimum conversion when mashing .
They have realised that checking pH before adding Enzymes and adjusting has helped conversion .
They have realised that a drop of fruit juice in a Refractometer gives a more accurate reading than measuring the pulp in a hydrometer .
They have realised that collecting spirit at a particular l/hr gets them the results they like .
Point is that advice such as “Thermometers are pointless” is not just a flippant comment but rather a real statement based on thousands of Home distillers that have been members here over the last almost 20 years that have personally experienced the same results .
If it works , we use it . If its pointless crap , we’ll tell you .
Laredo7mm wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:52 am
It is interesting that some people here have no problem using a hydrometer, but shun the use of a thermometer.
That kinda implies that “Some People here” would have a black and white approach to using anything that takes measurements .
That is far from the truth .
Those people have spent real time in their sheds doing many more fermentations and distillations than I bet you have done .
They have watched thermometers for countless hours and realised , they give no useful info that running a hand over their still can provide .
They have realised that a hydrometer is a useful tool for calculating potential Alc and watching fermentation progression .
They have realised that an Alc meter is far more accurate than throwing a teaspoon of liquor in a fire . ….. and safer .
They have worked out that using a thermometer to keep a fermentation at an optimum temp will produce a better product .
They have realised that using a thermometer to monitor mashing temp is vital to getting optimum conversion when mashing .
They have realised that checking pH before adding Enzymes and adjusting has helped conversion .
They have realised that a drop of fruit juice in a Refractometer gives a more accurate reading than measuring the pulp in a hydrometer .
They have realised that collecting spirit at a particular l/hr gets them the results they like .
Point is that advice such as “Thermometers are pointless” is not just a flippant comment but rather a real statement based on thousands of Home distillers that have been members here over the last almost 20 years that have personally experienced the same results .
If it works , we use it . If its pointless crap , we’ll tell you .
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Well said.feeling the pipe for the vapor rise is all the thermostat I have in my still. Works for me.Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:32 am Its a long one but I think it belongs here. Well put Yummy.
Laredo7mm wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:52 am
It is interesting that some people here have no problem using a hydrometer, but shun the use of a thermometer.
That kinda implies that “Some People here” would have a black and white approach to using anything that takes measurements .
That is far from the truth .
Those people have spent real time in their sheds doing many more fermentations and distillations than I bet you have done .
They have watched thermometers for countless hours and realised , they give no useful info that running a hand over their still can provide .
They have realised that a hydrometer is a useful tool for calculating potential Alc and watching fermentation progression .
They have realised that an Alc meter is far more accurate than throwing a teaspoon of liquor in a fire . ….. and safer .
They have worked out that using a thermometer to keep a fermentation at an optimum temp will produce a better product .
They have realised that using a thermometer to monitor mashing temp is vital to getting optimum conversion when mashing .
They have realised that checking pH before adding Enzymes and adjusting has helped conversion .
They have realised that a drop of fruit juice in a Refractometer gives a more accurate reading than measuring the pulp in a hydrometer .
They have realised that collecting spirit at a particular l/hr gets them the results they like .
Point is that advice such as “Thermometers are pointless” is not just a flippant comment but rather a real statement based on thousands of Home distillers that have been members here over the last almost 20 years that have personally experienced the same results .
If it works , we use it . If its pointless crap , we’ll tell you .
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Goose once (or maybe more?) commented how "ole boys" can't even see the thermometer at night. Naturally, I'm paraphrasing.
I would imagine a well lit work space could have been asking for trouble to some of those "ole boys"?
I would imagine a well lit work space could have been asking for trouble to some of those "ole boys"?
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NormandieStill wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:50 pm He was a master innovator indeed. I watched the video tour of his workshop. A lot of time and thought went into making his life just a little bit easier and more efficient. And generous to a fault with his knowledge. I couldn't justify the shipping cost of a barrel, or the cost of buying multiple ones. And one day I'll probably end up making some, but he's one of two innovative people I've encountered who intuitively understood that those who wanted to just buy one, would, and those who wanted to try and build one probably would too, so rather than hold back your secrets, best to provide a little help.
Here's to you Ben, and your legacy of making the world (and some spirits) just a little bit better.
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still_stirrin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:36 pm
But, if appearances will help you “drop the panties”, then it may be worth it. Obviously the best answer is always serve fresh panty droppers.
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Deplorable wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:15 pm
People ask me all the time if I make "traditional shine". The reply is always the same. "FUCK NO! There is no sugar in my shed. All Grain, all the time."
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Been a while since I've read that. He was a hell of a craftsman . Rip Ben
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"This discussion is interesting and thus far has been moving along with enthusiastic participation.
But please be mindful not to declare perceived or expected still behavior as a matter of fact. If you don't have first hand experience or
a documented example to bring to the table to make your point, then it would be best to frame one's thoughts in the form of a
question rather than a practical observation." -LWTCS
But please be mindful not to declare perceived or expected still behavior as a matter of fact. If you don't have first hand experience or
a documented example to bring to the table to make your point, then it would be best to frame one's thoughts in the form of a
question rather than a practical observation." -LWTCS
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Don't silence the voice of dissent, listen.
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Ain’t that the truth!Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:22 amDistilling is an old school art/ craft.....best get used to doing it the old school way.
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Epic!Swedish Pride wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:48 pm Nah for scotch I only strip once, for Irish potstilled I strip the same spirit twice then spirit run.
Fill the boiler with low wines if you can, makes for best chance of making good cuts.
Air or the side of caution on heads, with tails be brave, it'll age out, especially in a barrel
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