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refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:37 pm
by Bardstown Road
Is it possible? What would need to be done to successfully reuse the wash out of a boiler after distillation for refermenting new wash? Wanting to save water. Or is this all bad?

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:43 pm
by bearriver
Look into dunder and backset, and their usage.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:16 pm
by Hound Dog
I see a lot of people go through a lot of effort to save a few gallons of water. I guess here in the Confederacy I am used to water being relatively inexpensive. How high dollar is water in these other parts of the world?

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:25 pm
by S-Cackalacky
Read some of the recipes in the "Tried and True Recipes" section. Many of them talk about reusing backset or dunder in new ferments.

You've been a member here for 2 years. Maybe time you started doing some reading.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:08 pm
by Bardstown Road
I am actually asking for a friend. I have always used new water. I did read around and saw some reusing for flavor. I prefer having bitter moderators point me in the right direction considering the search function here sucks.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:21 pm
by S-Cackalacky
Not bitter - just an observation and a recommendation.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:25 pm
by MichiganCornhusker
Bardstown Road wrote: I prefer having bitter moderators point me in the right direction considering the search function here sucks.
Lol, ah, choices...

Reusing backset will require getting familiar with pH and how it affects your (or your friend's) world. Extra flavors would be a bonus. Maybe calcium carbonate is easier to come by than water for some.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:33 am
by bellybuster
The HDGoogle search is amazingly good, the search box up in the right corner is not so good

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:25 am
by S-Cackalacky
Best way to get an understanding of some of the issues related to using backset is to pick a tried and true grain recipe (Sweet Feed, UJSSM, or some other) and read the thread. Whether you intend to make the recipe, or not, that's where the methods and issues are discussed.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:58 am
by bearriver
Great advice Cack. There are lots of great techniques to be found in the T&T recipes. Jimbo's AG recipes and the rum recipes there pop in my mind as some of the best examples.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:39 am
by MichiganCornhusker
bearriver wrote:Great advice Cack. There are lots of great techniques to be found in the T&T recipes. Jimbo's AG recipes and the rum recipes there pop in my mind as some of the best examples.
So true, I think the biggest reason T&T recipes get there is because the good stuff is as much a result of process as ingredient list.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 am
by Bardstown Road
bellybuster wrote:The HDGoogle search is amazingly good, the search box up in the right corner is not so good
Damn, how did I not see the hd Google search quick link. I have been going to Google and searching and 95% of my quick searches popped up homedistiller.org at the top anyways. Thanks for pointing out the obvious

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:16 am
by S-Cackalacky
I think some of the long running recipe threads are the most valuable treasures this site has to offer. Where else can you get a synopsis of the process from preping the ingredients to tempering the end product - with all the little pitfalls and nuances discussed at length. If a newbie READS the UJ thread, they are usually rewarded with a successful outcome. And, that's true with any other well discussed recipe. It's where the knowledge of the experienced and the questions of the inexperienced meld into something wonderful.

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:54 am
by bellybuster
Bardstown Road wrote:
bellybuster wrote:The HDGoogle search is amazingly good, the search box up in the right corner is not so good
Damn, how did I not see the hd Google search quick link. I have been going to Google and searching and 95% of my quick searches popped up homedistiller.org at the top anyways. Thanks for pointing out the obvious

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