Just did a run using the Turkey Fryer that the Mrs got me for Xmas. All I can say is WOW!! It took 20 minutes to heat a 20L wash from 60F to distill temp. For anyone who uses gas to heat, this is positively the BEST way to do it. The entire stripping run took only 2 hrs start to finish. I'll try and post a picture but here's a link just in case. http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictur ... Still2.JPG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
How close to the burner were you collecting the distillate? From the pic it appears only a few feet from the flame, a little to close for my comfort I can't wait to try gas heat myself.
Damn Ak now I'm thinking it'd be easier to get a turkey fryer instead of installing electrical heating elements! Hmmm, and since I do go camping and the extra pot would be handy for fish fry's and such.....
Forgot to ask, how much gas did you use? I have two tanks for camping, one for my camp stove, the other for my lamps. Figure if I go this route, I could use one for still, and the other as heater to keep me from freezing while watching still. And lastly, any idea on how much gas/time for a reflux run?
Jaxom wrote:Forgot to ask, how much gas did you use? I have two tanks for camping, one for my camp stove, the other for my lamps. Figure if I go this route, I could use one for still, and the other as heater to keep me from freezing while watching still. And lastly, any idea on how much gas/time for a reflux run?
Jaxx
I have heard that one 12-13 gallon run takes about 6 hours, The tank in AK's photo is usually good for 2 runs (if it is filled properly). That is why I chose electric over propane, it cost $15.00 to get a tank filled here. I would prefer propane, but it is more expensive for me.
i use same kind of fryer and tank and usally get 3 to 4 runs plus my water heating for boiling suger. most of my runs are 6 hrs as well doesnt take as much heat as you would think to keep still a stillin .
First, the collection container is a good 7-8' from the heat with good ventilation. I use soft copper all the way to the collection jug.
As for fuel, tater's right. I used VERY little fuel for the run. Once it was up to temp (about 20 minutes) I turned the heat way down. The little camp stove that I used to use had to be filled at least 6 times during a run. I also added a digital thermometer and together, this was the simplest and most trouble free run I've ever done. I have 10 gal of sugar wash going now and can't wait to do a reflux run.
Like I said originally, if you use gas, this is the only way to go. There's really no way to describe just how easy it is to use.
Okay, I'm sold! I'm just hoping the weather holds as it has been. My garage is not attached to the house, and it's unheated/uninsulated. Luckly, we're having some rather warm weather right now. But I can see needing some heat beyond the turkey fryer should I have to sit out there for 6 hours during a reflux run. Any suggestions on how much propane I'd need to keep a 20'x24' two and half car garage somewhat comfortable? Mind you I'm thinking of one of those burners that screws ontop of a propane tank.
AkCoyote wrote:First, the collection container is a good 7-8' from the heat with good ventilation. I use soft copper all the way to the collection jug.
As for fuel, tater's right. I used VERY little fuel for the run. Once it was up to temp (about 20 minutes) I turned the heat way down. The little camp stove that I used to use had to be filled at least 6 times during a run. I also added a digital thermometer and together, this was the simplest and most trouble free run I've ever done. I have 10 gal of sugar wash going now and can't wait to do a reflux run.
Like I said originally, if you use gas, this is the only way to go. There's really no way to describe just how easy it is to use.
AkCoyote
Didn't you say that it took 2 hrs for a 20L run?
Multiply that by 3 and you get 6hrs for 15 gallon run.
My local fill stations (and the tank that came with my grill) say that those tanks are good for 12hrs of use. But what the hell...If tater says he can get a few runs out of one tank, then, I'm gonna have to give it a try, then calculate the costs and end up using whichever is cheaper, elec. or propane.
Jaxom,
I use a kerosene heater in my brother's garage (uninsulated), and it stays between 70-80degrees during winter. I can run 2 gallons of kerosene in my heater all day long. Your boiler will generate quite a bit of heat too.
AkCoyote wrote:First, the collection container is a good 7-8' from the heat with good ventilation. I use soft copper all the way to the collection jug.
As for fuel, tater's right. I used VERY little fuel for the run. Once it was up to temp (about 20 minutes) I turned the heat way down. The little camp stove that I used to use had to be filled at least 6 times during a run. I also added a digital thermometer and together, this was the simplest and most trouble free run I've ever done. I have 10 gal of sugar wash going now and can't wait to do a reflux run.
Like I said originally, if you use gas, this is the only way to go. There's really no way to describe just how easy it is to use.
AkCoyote
Didn't you say that it took 2 hrs for a 20L stripping run?
Multiply that by 3 and you get 6hrs for 15 gallon run.
My local fill stations (and the tank that came with my grill) say that those tanks are good for 12hrs of use. But what the hell...If tater says he can get a few runs out of one tank, then, I'm gonna have to give it a try, then calculate the costs and end up using whichever is cheaper, elec. or propane.
Jaxom,
I use a kerosene heater in my brother's garage (uninsulated), and it stays between 70-80degrees during winter. I can run 2 gallons of kerosene in my heater all day long. Your boiler will generate quite a bit of heat too.
AkCoyote wrote:First, the collection container is a good 7-8' from the heat with good ventilation. I use soft copper all the way to the collection jug.
As for fuel, tater's right. I used VERY little fuel for the run. Once it was up to temp (about 20 minutes) I turned the heat way down. The little camp stove that I used to use had to be filled at least 6 times during a run. I also added a digital thermometer and together, this was the simplest and most trouble free run I've ever done. I have 10 gal of sugar wash going now and can't wait to do a reflux run.
Like I said originally, if you use gas, this is the only way to go. There's really no way to describe just how easy it is to use.
AkCoyote
Didn't you say that it took 2 hrs for a 20L stripping run?
Multiply that by 3 and you get 6hrs for 15 gallon run.
My local fill stations (and the tank that came with my grill) say that those tanks are good for 12hrs of use. But what the hell...If tater says he can get a few runs out of one tank, then, I'm gonna have to give it a try, then calculate the costs and end up using whichever is cheaper, elec. or propane.
Jaxom,
I use a kerosene heater in my brother's garage (uninsulated), and it stays between 70-80degrees during winter. I can run 2 gallons of kerosene in my heater all day long. Your boiler will generate quite a bit of heat too.
Jaxom:
First,I live in Alaska so when you say the garage is cold, I need a point of reference. I have gas heat and keep the garage at about 50F in the winter and it's plenty warm. If you can keep the weather out then a propane heater will work fine.
As for fuel, this is all I can tell you. During the summer I use 2 tanks of propane around the house. I burn weeds with a weed burner and have a propane BBQ. When I took the tank out of the shed it was almost empty so worst case I'd have to go get it filled. I cranked up the burner,adjusted the flame so that it was all blue in color and set down the keg. With the heat all the way up the temperature was rising in 7 minutes. Previously the temp wouldn't move for a 1/2 an hour.
Within 12 minutes the temp was continually climbing and at 160F I started cutting the heat. This was 20 minutes into heat up. The temp went to 185F before I could get it to slow and the heatvalve was open less than 1/8 turn. What flame there was was so hot that very little gas was needed. At the very end I opened the valve another 1/16 turn to take the temp to 208F. When all was done, the propane bottle didn't feel like I had used much of anything. The thing to remember is, once at temp you won't have it running full blast so you will get far more than 12 hrs from a tank.
Point taken AK, I'm in the suburbs of a major metro midwestern city. Temps here have been bouncing between 20 to 55 for the last week or so. Today, actually expecting freezing rain! But on good stiff wind from from your neck of the woods and our temps could hit -20 very easily.
I'm gonna have to investigate one of them bullet kerosene heaters. Was thinking so anyways, have an entrance door that needs to be replaced asap and I wanna be warm while doing so!
So, all I have left to get before assembling still is.... Heater, 10' of 2" copper pipe, and a stainless steel bowl. And ya wanna know what? I'm having a heck of a time finding a bleeping bowl!!! If it's got a flat rim, the bottom isn't flat or isn't big enough for my flange!! If the bottom's right, the edge is rolled and I would think be difficult to seal right! ARGH!!!
Why not scrounge a discarded gas waterheater for the gas control and the burner?
Hmmmm...good Idea for the burner......I don't think the gas controller from a water heater would work though ( I could be wrong ). A regulator from an old scrap BBQ grill, and a burner from a water heater might work pretty good together.
To convert an old natural gas hot water heater burner to use propane, remove the gas jet, solder it closed and then re-drill it with a 1/16th drill. Works great.
The good news, my boss gave the entire staff Walmart gift cards with a $25 credit. The bad news, of the 4 Walmarts closest to me, none had a stainless steel bowl that had a bottom large enough to except my flange. (The bolt holes would end up right on the ridge between the flat bottom and where it starts curving upwards.) Oddly enough, of these same 4 stores, non had a turkey fry either!!! As one clerk told me, last year they had dozens and got stuck with them, so this year they only brought in a few per store.
I was however able to pick up a bowl at Sam's club, and while there I noticed that they're setting up spring/summer stuff, and there was a VERY nice stainless steal turkey fryer/clam steamer kit. It's a bit more, but I think I'll go for it at $65.
Just a question. What the hell are turkey fryers and why are they only sold in the US? Do people really 'fry' turkeys in them? They look more like turkey boilers to me. Just thought I woiuld ask!
when we say turkey fryer.. its a stand with a gas burner in it that you set a big pot on to deep fry with ..this burner works great for what we use it for
MyDBear wrote:when we say turkey fryer.. its a stand with a gas burner in it that you set a big pot on to deep fry with ..this burner works great for what we use it for
deep fried turkey(in peanut oil) is far better than cooking it in the oven or roaster. unless of course, you like stuffing cooked in the turkey.
once you try it you'll love it.
Thanks for the link!!! That'd save me some money! Although the stainless one is nice looking...heheheh. Although I've spent this weeks budget already on parts. I just hope he has a few left next week!
Ah, deep fried turkey! Must be a lot of peanut oil. Never heard of this cooking method for turkeys in NZ. (But I sure as hell know very little about cooking!). Thanks for elucidations.
linw wrote:Ah, deep fried turkey! Must be a lot of peanut oil. Never heard of this cooking method for turkeys in NZ. (But I sure as hell know very little about cooking!). Thanks for elucidations.
It doesn't take nearly as long to cook the bird either.
be careful of grease burns! but yeh, an oil-fried turkey is way better. more tender, better cooked, and the oil seals the outer part so the inner part stays very moist and oil-free.
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