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Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:35 am
by copperlover1
I just can't hold out any longer. I have to build one. Going to chuck up my 4" ferrule and cut a recess for the plate.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:46 am
by Oldvine Zin
+1
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:00 am
by copperlover1
Father's Day quote. "Son when you take it out of the chuck it's a chuck key. When you leave it in it's Thor's hammer". Going to cut it to fit a 4" diameter plate .025 thick. Should fit right in under the Teflon gasket.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:38 pm
by copperlover1
Cut my seat. Very nice fit.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:40 pm
by shadylane
You have my attention
Are you going to build bubble cap plates or sieve plates?
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:08 pm
by copperlover1
Bubble caps. I am thinking I will just copy the ones with the built in downcomers. I really like the way they look. I just have to work out the sizes.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:53 am
by copperlover1
According to my scrap pile iam going with 4 plates.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:30 am
by shadylane
copperlover1 wrote:Bubble caps. I am thinking I will just copy the ones with the built in downcomers. I really like the way they look. I just have to work out the sizes.
Sounds like an interesting project, especially since you have a lathe.
How many caps are you going to use per plate?
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:00 am
by copperlover1
I'am not sure. I have been reading trying to find what size works best for 4" pipe.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:44 pm
by googe
Must be nice having a lathe and knowing how to use it
, nice job so far mate, got a feeling this will be a nice build
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:52 pm
by Hound Dog
copperlover1 wrote:I'am not sure. I have been reading trying to find what size works best for 4" pipe.
Here is a handy little calculator link.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/small ... _1849.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:39 pm
by shadylane
copperlover1 wrote:I'am not sure. I have been reading trying to find what size works best for 4" pipe.
If I remember correctly, on a 4" plate stilldragon uses either three procaps or four normal bubble caps
You might want to have a look at their design.
Here's some youtube videos
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... GON+PROCAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:24 am
by copperlover1
Hounddog I bookmarked the pipe firing site. That's awesome. Shadylane thanks for the video link. I have been digging thru my junk pile for a perticuler piece of coppe tubing. It's some weird size that fits either inside a 3/4 or outside a 1/2". It's a tight fit so you can solder it. I know it's in there someplace.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:25 pm
by shadylane
Here's a link to one of my rambling experiments with a 4" column.
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 50&t=60486
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:39 pm
by pfshine
http://www.petersenproducts.com/Specifi ... opper.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:00 pm
by shadylane
copperlover1 wrote:I have been digging thru my junk pile for a perticuler piece of coppe tubing. It's some weird size that fits either inside a 3/4 or outside a 1/2". It's a tight fit so you can solder it. I know it's in there someplace.
With copper you need to be bashful, Heat it until its red, cool it then bash it
Long story short, make it the size and shape needed.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:14 pm
by squeezins
This is how I've been doing my 4" plates for a few years now. They work really well.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:50 am
by copperlover1
Thanks guys for all the great info. Shadylane I read your rambling post last night awesome stuff I can't wait to see how your other plates do. Great pic squeezins. What does the downcomer and upcomers look like and do you have any dimensions.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:19 am
by copperlover1
I found my missing pipe. Just not sure what to do with it. I wantd to use it to make stop rings to hold the upcomers in the plate.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:07 am
by squeezins
copperlover1 wrote:Thanks guys for all the great info. Shadylane I read your rambling post last night awesome stuff I can't wait to see how your other plates do. Great pic squeezins. What does the downcomer and upcomers look like and do you have any dimensions.
downcomer are 3/4 pipe and 1" cap. The up comers are 1/2 pipe with 3/4 bubblecaps.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:55 pm
by shadylane
Just my opinion
Five 3/4" bubble caps and a 3/4" downcomer, like squeezis using,
will out perform a large single cap with a built in downcomer.
I'm not sure about using 3 or 4 smaller caps with built in downcomers,
I haven't experimented with that yet, but it looks like a good idea
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:07 am
by copperlover1
Squeezins what holds the caps on? Thanks for the dimensions.
Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:32 am
by squeezins
copperlover1 wrote:Squeezins what holds the caps on? Thanks for the dimensions.
I solder everything in place . I braze the riser tubes and use stay brite #8 on the caps. There is 1000°f melt temp between the two so no chance of the tubes coming loose when you solder the caps
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:46 am
by copperlover1
squeezins,
That's cool. I read your build post on the other forum. I was going to leave a great job comment but I can over there yet I'm traped in the newbie section.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 2:01 am
by Daveman69
squeezins wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:07 am
copperlover1 wrote:Thanks guys for all the great info. Shadylane I read your rambling post last night awesome stuff I can't wait to see how your other plates do. Great pic squeezins. What does the downcomer and upcomers look like and do you have any dimensions.
downcomer are 3/4 pipe and 1" cap. The up comers are 1/2 pipe with 3/4 bubblecaps.
I know this was an old post but I just ran across it. Squeezins what brand caps did you use for the bubble caps here. The ones I find are more rounded and not as near appealing to the eye. I really like yours. Sorry it wouldn't let me include your picture due to the size.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:17 pm
by GNBrews
squeezins - Those plates look fantastic. Would you be willing to detail the dimensions of the build (hole size, count, etc.) of both the cap and the upcomer? Also, are the caps soldered to the base plate?
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:45 pm
by NineInchNails
You could just make one large diameter cap using copper pipe. I'd bet the circumference of one large cap would be close to the total circumference of multiple smaller caps. Obviously a ton of smaller caps would have more circumference. I looked for the link to the basic design I used to make mine, but i can't find it. Basically it's one large cap with a central downcommer.
Re: Intrigued by the bubble plates
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:08 am
by Jack C
Just curious is that a Clausen lathe. Looks to be a 1400 series.