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Buffalo Trace clone?

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Has anyone got a mash bill clone for Buffalo Trace bourbon? What yeast would be a good choice?
Some thing that would be 5-6 gallons for the fermernter.
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I couldn't tell you about the yeast or bill (I suspect it's corn, wheat, rye, barley in great to small quantities because BT is pretty mild), but I know that BT has always been extremely picky about their oak, and for this reason, their barrels are highly valued on the used barrel market. One of my favorite Scotches for their age are the Kilchomans - they're fiery but sublimely elegant - they all use #3-#4 barrels made from well seasoned staves. BT even did an experiment showing that oak from the bottom of the tree had better flavor than oak from the top. That's how obsessive they are.
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While I cannot speak to BT specifically, I would plug White Labs WLP070 Bourbon Yeast. The only downside is that it is $7 a vial. I usually make big starters and then pull a little off to refrigerate for another run. I have used it a few times, results are fantastic.... give it a shot!
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rgreen2002

sounds good--------thanks
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Buffalo Trace uses their #1 mash bill, which is a low rye blend. It's a secret but is thought to be roughly 75% corn, 17% barley, 8% rye. They use a heavy #4 char on the Buffalo Trace barrels.

Any clean fermenting yeast should do fine. Many have good results with the Chico strain (US-05, WY1056, WLP001, BRY97, etc.).
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when i run out of mine, i buy theirs. this may be a happy accident, since i have no where near the expertize of those at BT...but this makes something that tastes similar to me. not a clone though...

without question, the wood is the secret to success. i use big cubes of 380* toast for 2 hours, charred heavy and a fair lot of them...

heres the grain bill

2.5KG corn
1.25kg oats
1.25kg barley
a skinny 1kg malt 2 row.

20L of boiling water, added to grain. stirred. added 1/2 dose SEB HT, cooked to boiling, and then cooled to 180* added 1 dose SEB HT, rested 90 min.
Cooled to 148* added 1 dose SEBamyl GL and gave overnight rest.
separated wort with the corntrifuge, sparging twice.
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Have had the opportunity to personally dry reach on buffy white dog I'm thinking turbo yeast might make a good clone
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Thanks everyone.
I suspected they were heavy on corn and light on rye. Confusing reading their #1 and #2 recipe, as much as they show.
Their video did not mention wheat, nor any yeast, although wheat is in their #2.
I like bakers and safale 05 yeast. if I rememnber I do the Safale 05 at 68deg. in my fermenting chamber and bakers at 80 deg.F
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Google that - remember Google is your friend. Try Bourbonr (bourbonr.com) as I know they've had graphics of various MAsh Bills.

Most Buffalo Trace bourbons are WHEATED mash bills.
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OP - if you're stil around, here is a guy who is selling disassembled Buffalo Trace oak barrels. You might try asking him for chips, bits and pieces, etc.

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