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American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:27 pm
by Toby91
So I am slowly starting to venture into better things after years of very basic 48hr yeast alcohol.
I am putting down one on the tried and true recipes, probably the all bran recipe it looks like it would be a good base. After that I really want to age it with chips.
I am however finding it hard and expensive to find American oak in Australia. Any suggestions? I wasn't able to find a thread on it already.
We do enjoy the standard drinks aka Jim beam, JD.
Re: American oak in Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:19 am
by Mikey-moo
Got mine from ebay.
Re: American oak in Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:35 am
by thecroweater
Prolly be more help if ya narrowed it down to about where you are or at least which state. No point me telling you you can get a sack of off cuts from Stubbs cooperage in Williamstown SA for $15 if you are in fn qld

Re: American oak in Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:16 am
by Saltbush Bill
Roll Out The Barrel cooperage in Brisbane sell off cuts at a reasonable price and will post if required. You will find them easily if you google the name. Doing it this way means you have to learn a bit about toasting and or charring Oak Sticks.
Still Dragon Au sell a variety of American oak and French Oak dominoes in different toasts and chars if you want to go that route.
Dont be tempted to buy the Chips n such that you see in Home brew shops, they will give inferior results 9 times out of ten.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:21 am
by Yummyrum
+1 Salty
I got some American Oak off cuts from ROTB
Most are quite large ... easily able to split into domino sizes that will fit in a demi
But personnally I don't get the point of flavouring up nuetral with Oak
Good for a molasses based Rum though
Yeah ROTB sell shavings too .... don't

Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:44 am
by thecroweater
If you don't mind paying postage it not a supa cheap option but A P Johns sell a range of products that suit ageing. One I believe is called vat planks or vat inserts, they are inserts to give flavour in otherwise spent vats. This is range of oaks and a range of toasts and chars. I think they are about 15x70 mm that can be easily ripped down to 15x15. One toast is called dark toast or chocolate toast and has been toasted so as to caramelize the oak sugars. They are fantastic for fast ageing and smoothing out say a sugar head mash. Like I said doing ya own is way cheaper but I've never come close to replicating these and am for sure going to try them again. That said I think they don't suit every drink, loved then in rum and whiskey but in plum brandy they tasted weird.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:04 am
by kimbodious
StillDragon
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:47 am
by Saltbush Bill
thecroweater wrote:If you don't mind paying postage it not a supa cheap option but A P Johns sell a range of products that suit ageing. One I believe is called vat planks or vat inserts, they are inserts to give flavour in otherwise spent vats. This is range of oaks and a range of toasts and chars. I think they are about 15x70 mm that can be easily ripped down to 15x15. One toast is called dark toast or chocolate toast and has been toasted so as to caramelize the oak sugars.
They are another very good option Crow, But I'm not sure that they sell to the general public in small quantities.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:55 am
by LWTCS
kimbodious wrote:StillDragon
Here:
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/american- ... ium-toast/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:40 pm
by kimbodious
Check with Bundy Kegs
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:37 pm
by Saltbush Bill
kimbodious wrote:Check with Bundy Kegs
I wouldnt buy a keg from him ..they are twice the price of ROTB Barrels, I suspect his off cuts a similarly priced.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:19 pm
by Toby91
Yummyrum wrote:+1 Salty
I got some American Oak off cuts from ROTB
Most are quite large ... easily able to split into domino sizes that will fit in a demi
But personnally I don't get the point of flavouring up nuetral with Oak
Good for a molasses based Rum though
Yeah ROTB sell shavings too .... don't

Yeah i am looking into options on how to convert the old reflux still into a pot still now.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:20 pm
by Toby91
Thanks for the replies, StillDragon looks the go.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:15 pm
by googe
I brought some from the local home brew shop once.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:16 am
by Saltbush Bill
Toby91 wrote:Thanks for the replies, StillDragon looks the go.
If you do go down that path I would suggest buying a little American Oak and some French Oak....both Medium Toast as a good starting point. They both give great but different results.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:37 am
by thecroweater
Saltbush Bill wrote:thecroweater wrote:If you don't mind paying postage it not a supa cheap option but A P Johns sell a range of products that suit ageing. One I believe is called vat planks or vat inserts, they are inserts to give flavour in otherwise spent vats. This is range of oaks and a range of toasts and chars. I think they are about 15x70 mm that can be easily ripped down to 15x15. One toast is called dark toast or chocolate toast and has been toasted so as to caramelize the oak sugars.
They are another very good option Crow, But I'm not sure that they sell to the general public in small quantities.
Not sure, EG got some with another snoozer so I'm guessing the minimum buy isn't to large , would have to contact them to ask I guess.
Re: American oak in QLD Australia
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:46 am
by Saltbush Bill
Ive used the AP Johns stuff as well Crow, its good stuff....not saying you cant get it....its probably just harder to organize.