Question on the process itself
Moderator: Site Moderator
- WallyGator
- Novice
- Posts: 11
- Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:18 pm
- Location: Southwest Idaho
Question on the process itself
Hi guys!
I'm thoroughly enjoying all the info available here. In the course of my reading, I've come across several references to "speed runs" where instead of taking the time to ferment a mash or wash, you simply dump a cheap bag in a box of wine in a pot and let it go. Is this safe, and are there noticeable diminished returns to not just being patient? I must admit, the idea of getting some clearance wines , and adding some mashed peaches or nectar to it and getting something similar to peach brandy in short order is kind of intriguing....
I'm thoroughly enjoying all the info available here. In the course of my reading, I've come across several references to "speed runs" where instead of taking the time to ferment a mash or wash, you simply dump a cheap bag in a box of wine in a pot and let it go. Is this safe, and are there noticeable diminished returns to not just being patient? I must admit, the idea of getting some clearance wines , and adding some mashed peaches or nectar to it and getting something similar to peach brandy in short order is kind of intriguing....
-WallyGator-
"Before the invention of the Internet, the village idiot was kept in the village...."
"Before the invention of the Internet, the village idiot was kept in the village...."
- still_stirrin
- Master of Distillation
- Posts: 10371
- Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:01 am
- Location: where the buffalo roam, and the deer & antelope play
Re: Question on the process itself
Some here have used cheap wine or spirits for sacrificial cleaning runs. But I can't imagine buying a wine or spirit with the intention of distilling it for the product. It would be costly compared to fermenting your own. I guess if you've got more dollars than sense, it could be done. But it is somewhat counter to the hobby really.WallyGator wrote:Hi guys!
I'm thoroughly enjoying all the info available here. In the course of my reading, I've come across several references to "speed runs" where instead of taking the time to ferment a mash or wash, you simply dump a cheap bag in a box of wine in a pot and let it go. Is this safe, and are there noticeable diminished returns to not just being patient? I must admit, the idea of getting some clearance wines , and adding some mashed peaches or nectar to it and getting something similar to peach brandy in short order is kind of intriguing....
YMMV.
ss
My LM/VM & Potstill: My build thread
My Cadco hotplate modification thread: Hotplate Build
My stock pot gin still: stock pot potstill
My 5-grain Bourbon recipe: Special K
My Cadco hotplate modification thread: Hotplate Build
My stock pot gin still: stock pot potstill
My 5-grain Bourbon recipe: Special K
Re: Question on the process itself
Then I would rather buy some finished distillate, in stead of a cheap wine and distill it.
Re: Question on the process itself
Give it a go - and report back
I'd use a white wine rather than red.
It should work - but as the others say - -----
Each of us makes his / her own path
SAFE ? - YES ? economic ? probably not - so what ?
I'd use a white wine rather than red.
It should work - but as the others say - -----
Each of us makes his / her own path
SAFE ? - YES ? economic ? probably not - so what ?
Re: Question on the process itself
I've pot stilled cheap wines to make some fine sherry. Just remember how much cheap wine it takes to get anything back.
CCVM http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... d#p7104768" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Ethyl Carbamate Docs viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55219&p=7309262&hil ... e#p7309262
DSP-AR-20005
Ethyl Carbamate Docs viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55219&p=7309262&hil ... e#p7309262
DSP-AR-20005
-
- Master of Distillation
- Posts: 4674
- Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:48 am
- Location: Northern Victoria, Australia
Re: Question on the process itself
Hi, DAD,DAD300 wrote:I've pot stilled cheap wines to make some fine sherry. Just remember how much cheap wine it takes to get anything back.
Could you walk us through your process of making sherry from cheap wine?
I like fortified wine and have at least a hundred bottles of white wine I got for maybe a dollar a bottle at a winery auction; it is maybe twelve years old.
And the bottles are nice clear glass that I will use for bottling from the still.
Thanks,
Geoff
The Baker
Re: Question on the process itself
That's a pretty big spoon you're asking to get filled Wally.
- WallyGator
- Novice
- Posts: 11
- Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:18 pm
- Location: Southwest Idaho
Re: Question on the process itself
Sorry NZ, wasn't my intention to cause any kind of ruckus or ask for a spoon feeding. I've got a neighbor that has 5-5 liter boxes of blush sitting in his garage that he says I can just have. It was left over from a party that never happened, and I've done him a few favors. Was just looking for a creative use, that's all.
-WallyGator-
"Before the invention of the Internet, the village idiot was kept in the village...."
"Before the invention of the Internet, the village idiot was kept in the village...."
- Saltbush Bill
- Site Mod
- Posts: 10400
- Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:13 am
- Location: Northern NSW Australia
Re: Question on the process itself
Wally there is a group of people here who like to discourage newbies from asking questions by giving smart arse replys. Pay them no heed.
For every one of them , there are many others who are quite happy to answer your questions.
For every one of them , there are many others who are quite happy to answer your questions.
- Still Life
- Distiller
- Posts: 1545
- Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:24 pm
- Location: Great State Of Missouri
Re: Question on the process itself
Hey if you've got that much 'free' wine give it a shot like you described.
Do an HD Google Search on "box wine" --lot of sacrificial run posts, but a few discuss otherwise.
Not a common practice because of the economics.
Do an HD Google Search on "box wine" --lot of sacrificial run posts, but a few discuss otherwise.
Not a common practice because of the economics.
Re: Question on the process itself
What is your answer to Wally's question, SB?Saltbush Bill wrote:Wally there is a group of people here who like to discourage newbies from asking questions by giving smart arse replys. Pay them no heed.
For every one of them , there are many others who are quite happy to answer your questions.
Re: Question on the process itself
I reckon the answer would be," put the wine in a still and run it."
Pretty simple stuff.
Pretty simple stuff.
Some men you jest cain't reach...
-
- Master of Distillation
- Posts: 4674
- Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:48 am
- Location: Northern Victoria, Australia
Re: Question on the process itself
A few years ago I used to deliver bread to a local supermarket.
I spotted a trolley nearly full of bag-in-a-box wine which was out of date or had damaged boxes.
Asked the owner and he gave me the lot.
I distilled it, worked fine.
What was amazing was the amount of sediment, I thought at the time, probably bentonite.
Geoff
I spotted a trolley nearly full of bag-in-a-box wine which was out of date or had damaged boxes.
Asked the owner and he gave me the lot.
I distilled it, worked fine.
What was amazing was the amount of sediment, I thought at the time, probably bentonite.
Geoff
The Baker
-
- Master of Distillation
- Posts: 3274
- Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:59 am
- Location: Pacific Northwest
Re: Question on the process itself
My first distillations were of muskat wine I made myself. Don't know why box wine would be any different than what I made. I did fraction these runs. Most of my wine ended up as clear ethanol for macerations and other liquors, and a few turned into some wonderful jars of brandy. I say run it and see what you get because you can't beat the cost.
Otis’ Pot and Thumper, Dimroth Condenser: Pot-n-Thumper/Dimroth
Learning to Toast: Toasting Wood
Polishing Spirits with Fruitwood: Fruitwood
Badmotivator’s Barrels: Badmo Barrels
Learning to Toast: Toasting Wood
Polishing Spirits with Fruitwood: Fruitwood
Badmotivator’s Barrels: Badmo Barrels
-
- Master of Distillation
- Posts: 4674
- Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:48 am
- Location: Northern Victoria, Australia
Re: Question on the process itself
The sediment was there because the wine was mostly fairly old, I think.The Baker wrote:A few years ago I used to deliver bread to a local supermarket.
I spotted a trolley nearly full of bag-in-a-box wine which was out of date or had damaged boxes.
Asked the owner and he gave me the lot.
I distilled it, worked fine.
What was amazing was the amount of sediment, I thought at the time, probably bentonite.
Geoff
If sold and drunk within a short time we would have drunk that sediment and not known it was there.
Geoff
The Baker