South Mississippi Moonshine operation busted

[Hilltop]

They said this is the largest bust in 8 years. 80 gallons of hooch was seized. They claim it was a 6 barrel operation but they must be talking about mash barrels as all I see is a poorly crafted 40 gallon stainless pot and worm.

[Hilltop]

Looks like he was using some damn milkjugs for his product, but I see gallon glass jugs too

[shadylane]

Kinda looks like the plastic jugs haven't been opened yet?
You don't suppose the feds counted the jugs of water used for tempering

[zapata]

I've seen commercial shine in milk jugs with pull tabs, must be able to buy em and apply pretty easily. Even heard a guy brag that it means it hasn't been tampered with, it's a real professional operation. SMDH. Though usually around my parts its bottles more like vinegar is sold in than milk jugs.

Also, no way that op is distributing in glass jugs. Those jugs are for their own cut, feints, something. Commercial shine is usually sold in plastic, or mason jars for the kitsch. Those gallon jugs cost way too much for that kind of swill.

[Pikey]

So we've seen the $100 per gallon claims on "the programme" - what does one of those jugs go for in reality ?

It'd take me 3 months - running every day to get that sort of quantity together

[rubelstrudel]

34gallons of 40%. - thats 600 or so liters of wash. Thats quite a bit of work.

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[shadylane]

Here's a link to the story
http://www.wlox.com/story/38532151/ille ... ississippi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[Hilltop]

Here's a link to the story
http://www.wlox.com/story/38532151/ille ... ississippi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

My apologies, I thought I posted the link, thanks. It's mason jars in my area. The area of this bust Kiln Mississippi is the hometown of Brett Farve and it has a long notorious history of Monnshine. One of the largest stills and operations ran out of that town way back. It's said the Highway north of their was built to haul Moonshine to Chicago.

This cat was running 6 mash barrels and a 40 gallonish still. He wasn't selling on the spot he used a bootlegger hence why his name was not reveled. They ain't done yet. Quarts are sold on the street not Gallons.

The glass jugs are 12 bucks, but many a wine drinker has stacks of them for trade. He was a crappy welder is all i got to say. Those brackets for handles reveal his occupation as an electrician in the shipyard possibly.

Y'all look around and see if anybody's missing as I've seen a few posts online through the years from that area. The dogs have been sniffing out stills in Mississippi hard, you boys be careful.

Can someone with better eyes than me zoom in under the cap of the still and have a look at that valve? Is it controlling a type of Coldfinger? If so he may have been making 1 run not two. Looks like they caught him after he made an order. Probably sat on him. Get good watchdogs boys, that bark might save ya. I've read of several busts latley so the Tyrants must be losing lots of dough and if that's the case the eye in the sky is watching harder than normal.

Unlike the other busts they didn't run the usual it's " nasty, unsanitary, contains bugs and animals type of propaganda" His bootlegger better go hide. They didn't reveal his name to tip em off.

[Hilltop]

I've seen commercial shine in milk jugs with pull tabs, must be able to buy em and apply pretty easily. Even heard a guy brag that it means it hasn't been tampered with, it's a real professional operation. SMDH. Though usually around my parts its bottles more like vinegar is sold in than milk jugs.

Also, no way that op is distributing in glass jugs. Those jugs are for their own cut, feints, something. Commercial shine is usually sold in plastic, or mason jars for the kitsch. Those gallon jugs cost way too much for that kind of swill.

Ya know, with all this hooch constantly being found in new milkjugs Zapata one would guess correctly that the jug distributors are being monitered, around here it's quart jars or like your area other types of bottles.

It's pretty simple folks, milk jugs start showing up all over town and the dogs decide to see who close by orders jugs as you don't buy those at Wal-Mart. Mason jars are in every store. The jugs not only are plastic, but the ease of tracking down purchases of large quantitys of jugs hopefully may deter some jakelegs to quit using them. Milk jugs are not rated for alcohol, and the phenol leeches out into the hooch so your essentially poisoning those who drink it. Don't use plastic if your new, many a thread here can be found as to why it's a bad. Plastic storebought whisky bottles are rated for plastic but jugs are not.

[WIski]

The activities leading to this bust are nothing like what is practiced by the honest folks here on HD. This guy is a dumb ass and you cant fix stupid. It's pretty clear if your going to sell they are going to bust your balls. Keep it close to home fella's and all is good.

[cob]

pretty funny that the ABC agent fred Herndon blames this operation on the moonshiners TV show.

is that the cop car that needs a shovel handle to keep the trunk open?? can't make the plate.

[goose eye]

You can get them milk jugs from a lot of places. Next time you in a store look at all that comes in em.
They Putin it in them cause it is a dollar an sense thang.
You getin 20 a gal an you gonna put it in something that cost 23 cent a piece or something that cost 6 a case
27x6 a case 162.00 or 80 x .23. 18.40 ?
Them 5 gal water jugs and bigger is what corn is leaving the still head in If they of any size.
Can tell them law dogs ain't busted many stills. He got his legs wet showin off for tv with that pickax.
Hard to put that outfit in anyone name unless they catch you at it .

Now is the best time to get a lawyer.

So I'm tole

[Hilltop]

You can get them milk jugs from a lot of places. Next time you in a store look at all that comes in em.
They Putin it in them cause it is a dollar an sense thang.
You getin 20 a gal an you gonna put it in something that cost 23 cent a piece or something that cost 6 a case
27x6 a case 162.00 or 80 x .23. 18.40 ?
Them 5 gal water jugs and bigger is what corn is leaving the still head in If they of any size.
Can tell them law dogs ain't busted many stills. He got his legs wet showin off for tv with that pickax.
Hard to put that outfit in anyone name unless they catch you at it .

Now is the best time to get a lawyer.

So I'm tole

60 a gallon in that area so I'm tole Goose.

[Kareltje]

I repeat my question here again, reading the prices mentioned.
As a consumer: if I had to pay $20 for a gallon (say € 5 for a liter) of illegal moonshine, I might be tempted.

But if I had to pay $60 for a gallon (about € 15 for a liter), I would rather go to a legal liquor store. (Or make it myself!)
Buying legal drinks does not get you in prison or even at the police station. And I can easily beat that price myself.

So why would anyone pay more than $60 for a gallon of illegal drink?

[zapata]

Kitsch, style, fun, cool, addicted to shitty cuts and bad hangovers, dry county, etc etc

[goose eye]

Reckon that the difference between retail an wholesale.

Suger shine corn for 60 . that why he was sitting on 13 long cases or agein it. ever how you look at it.

So I'm tole

[Hilltop]

Kitsch, style, fun, cool, addicted to shitty cuts and bad hangovers, dry county, etc etc

Hancock County may be the wettest county in Ms as the Bars are open 365 days a year and never seem to close. Shine was 10 a quart for decades so a 5 dollar increase to 15 a quart isn't far fetched. Folks drink it and pay it as they prefer it. Kiln Ms moonshine kept Chicago wet during prohibition and has a rep, so 60 a gallon is the local price I bet tourists pay 100.

Also depends on what ya buying. When I was a kid working in that area the hooch was gold and aged and malted at 10 a quart. We not talking corn sugarhead rum. Malted Whisky aged on oak came from the Kiln. I remember a few drunken nights in their little bar and everything was yellow, as local native Brett Farve played for Green Bay. We got drunk with his sister and kin and had a good time. For years Mississippi was probably the driest state in the Union and Shine is still prefered. A 500 gallon Ladnier still in that area fed the Coast area and Louisiana for many years and I suspect that fellow is a nephew or cousin.

The tyrants must be losing their shirts in Mississippi judging by all these moonshine busts. Seems like one a week. Those agents have been doing their best to convince the public that shine is unsafe and unsanitary but I notice they didn't go with that usual propaganda for their masters on this bust. That ol boys name was hid so I suspect they being mum cause they gonna get the bootleggers but hell, any bootlegger who ain't seen this all over the news by now must be deaf and blind.

He was the man around there as some are shedding crocodile tears all the way to Jackson.

[goose eye]

The business in that area got to be bigger than a a 40 gal outfit salein at 60. You got minimum wage folks that can't afford that an Suger shine is there market. Somewhere round there you got a commercial size outfit most likely subs onderground or in a hog farm operation.
Folks not knowin bout it show they good at what they do.
No reports of sickness shows they care about there product.

So I'm tole

[aircarbonarc]

I'm now fascinated by the history of that area. My good friend who's family is from the grain belt of Canada used to run a good sized still back in the day and sold Canadian grain liquor to the US bootleggers during prohibition. The history of prohibition is always so interesting

[zapata]

Im not from Mississippi, but I think it's interesting hearing about shine culture in different areas.
Working class folks might not be buying $60 gallons, but around here they are buying $2 and $3 shots. Shot houses are still a thing here, though they eventually draw a lot of attention unless they have family in the law or change location pretty often. More often around here it's $2 or $3 shots sold a little more discreetly from otherwise beer only bars or private "clubs". Think motorcycle clubhouse, though I've heard the sheriff's clubhouse has 2 jars, take a shot from 1 and put $2 in the other. Ironically heard this from the spouse of a deputy who told me shine is legal "on the small scale". I didnt say a word! But with no more taxes and overhead, $60 gallons still turn a profit if sold by the shot.

Quarts were $20 the last time I asked someone who had a jar at a card game. Which would still be a free quart for the guy in the trailer park who buys a gallon and sells 3 quarts. Quality was....meh. I've also seen 750 ml jars for $20 called "quarts" SMH. That would net the small guy 5 quarts per gallon. Hustle hustle hustle

[aircarbonarc]

Up here in the West coast of Canada we pay $20+ for a 750ml bottle in the liquor store. The cheapest is like $18.

[shadylane]

Here's a link to the story
http://www.wlox.com/story/38532151/ille ... ississippi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Can someone with better eyes than me zoom in under the cap of the still and have a look at that valve? Is it controlling a type of Coldfinger?

I've been scratching my head about the valve also.
May be it's part of the CIP system
Edited: Now I think it's used to fill the pot with hot water.

Open the valve so that hot water in the top of the flak stand drains into the pot.
Fill the flak stand from the bottom with cold water
The hot water will rise, and fill the boiler

[Truckinbutch]

Round here 'leggers movin 80pf sugar shine at $100 per gallon . They ain't losin no money . Shot houses gettin $4 a drink and they losin even less .
I'll stick with keepin me and my family mellow .
I don't want to work hard enough to be a 'legger .

[Copperhead road]

It’s all hype as that is not a big operation at all, it’s not uncommon for a hobby Distiller in Australia to have far more lying around. I for one have 7 x 220L fermenters all bubbling and if you are trying to fill 3 or 4 bigger barrels (100L each) you need a good amount of wash to keep producing product.
Then you have a 2 year wait at least before you can start to reap the rewards of your efforts (and that doesn’t mean selling it either!)

Just Sayin.......

[goose eye]

Round here brandy
Apple peach strawberry grape or black berry.
200 a case 80 a gal 25 a quart.



So I'm tole

[Hilltop]

The business in that area got to be bigger than a a 40 gal outfit salein at 60. You got minimum wage folks that can't afford that an Suger shine is there market. Somewhere round there you got a commercial size outfit most likely subs onderground or in a hog farm operation.
Folks not knowin bout it show they good at what they do.
No reports of sickness shows they care about there product.

So I'm tole

Ahh, at first I thought it was the bootlegger they were after but today I hear this may be a family affair so you may be right goose, it's 40 over here, cuz has 40, his uncle may have 40 etc. We will hear soon enough I'm sure. Either that or this guy has some serious pull, for the state boys to keep mum on his name as they usually put the name right under the picture of his face all over the news.

[Shine0n]

Around my parts folk are paying 80 per gal of sugar shine (corn) and 120 for premium.

If I weren't scared to go to prison I'd be tempted but I like my freedom and my own product.

Ohh, if some of yall ever seen my still house you'd probably never sip my stuff. It's dirty but the likker is Devine lol.
Think of Hamden Estates

[HDNB]

Guys, i'm gonna get in shit if i don't remind you....

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lets drop the price of illicit likker talk please.