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Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:20 pm
by cnk
HI
I am going to try Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe. If I use Fleischmann's Instant Dried Yeast instead of fresh yeast (he has 225 gramms for an 80 l wash) how much yeast do I need?
Online suggests to use a quarter of the amount of instant to fresh ie 65g, and then if I am going to do a 20l wash do I quarter it again?
cnk
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:20 am
by fizzix
It's all linear, cnk.
Since you're going 20 liters (1/4 of the recipe), use 1/4 of the 225 grams = 56.25 grams.
Now, do you really have to measure 56.25 grams precisely? No.
Very few of us are that anal retentive. Round up and do 57 grams if you're measuring. Heck, do 60 grams.
Make a mental picture of what that quantity looks, and that'll be the "photo quantity" for all your 20 liter dry yeast pitches.
The point is, I used to measure my yeast PRECISELY --frightened of over/under pitching by even a gram of two. Those were the days.
Now? I have that "photo quantity" engraved and just dump in what I think matches.
As long as you're close, and are kind to your yeast, they will colonize all by themselves and give you a nice drink.
Some of this is just "fly by the seat" science.
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:32 am
by Fiddleford
56 grams is a good amount of yeast, just a tip just use bakers yeast like your using, not none of that quick rise crap or the other stuff. from Fleischmann's at least don't know about the other brands.
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:36 am
by cnk
Thanks Fizzix and Fiddleford. Much appreciated. Do your bluegrass Fiddleford? I play viola in my local symphony orchestra!
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:54 am
by Fiddleford
I always appreciated the viola, it has all thous lower notes I'm wanting while doing harmonies, but yea the family all plays bluegrass I just never learnt that style yet. Wanting to anyhow, all i got is traditional Canadian trad Scottish and trad Irish, with a little bit of Appalachian american in there to.
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:46 pm
by esxman
Cnk , just a suggestion , when you do your next sugar wash , try inverting the sugar , with citric acid , I use the juice of one lemon in a 20 litre wash . I make a lot of gins now for friends I might add, sometimes from the local grapes when in season, otherwise from sugar .I just use a plain yeast nothing fancy , I do add 2 teaspoons of DAP with the yeast . I always sniff the bubbler , that gives me a good idea how the ferment is progressing , if the aroma is pleasant , then the product will be so too , and vice versa . I tried to make a Vodka from a sugar wash for a friend , but they said it was pleasant but it was more like a grape raki , so yes even the higher alcohols will influence the taste of your product . When you do make your gin , look for the indian juniper , I find the berries are absolutely full of juniper oil , ideal for ginning . esxman
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:36 pm
by cnk
Thanks for the info guys. Esxman, do you invert the sugar yourself? Do you use dextrose or ordinary cane sugar? Indian juniper sounds excellent!
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:42 pm
by Fiddleford
cnk wrote:Thanks for the info guys. Esxman, do you invert the sugar yourself? Do you use dextrose or ordinary cane sugar? Indian juniper sounds excellent!
There is a method on inverting sugars on the parent site.
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:53 am
by dukethebeagle120
Fiddleford wrote:I always appreciated the viola, it has all thous lower notes I'm wanting while doing harmonies, but yea the family all plays bluegrass I just never learnt that style yet. Wanting to anyhow, all i got is traditional Canadian trad Scottish and trad Irish, with a little bit of Appalachian american in there to.
Hey fiddleford
I Play in a bluegrass band.
We did a few festivals in eastern Ontario this year.
Headed Up to Huntsville to the ccba awards this year in november.
I Play mandolin and upright..
Got this hotshot banjo player Who's 15.
Plays like hell
He won a banjo compétition in Virginia this summer.
Not bad for a kid from Québec.
Not exactly the hub of bluegrass
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:31 am
by Fiddleford
Little black fly
Pickin at my bones
In Northwestern Ontario
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:14 am
by Manc
cnk wrote:HI
I am going to try Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe. If I use Fleischmann's Instant Dried Yeast instead of fresh yeast (he has 225 gramms for an 80 l wash) how much yeast do I need?
Online suggests to use a quarter of the amount of instant to fresh ie 65g, and then if I am going to do a 20l wash do I quarter it again?
cnk
Hi cnk I would use half the quantity of dried yeast to fresh yeast
Example 60 grams of fresh yeast equals 30 grams of dried yeast.
Lee
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:26 am
by cnk
Thanks Lee. Much appreciated.
cnk
Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:47 pm
by The Baker
Manc wrote:cnk wrote:HI
I am going to try Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe. If I use Fleischmann's Instant Dried Yeast instead of fresh yeast (he has 225 gramms for an 80 l wash) how much yeast do I need?
Online suggests to use a quarter of the amount of instant to fresh ie 65g, and then if I am going to do a 20l wash do I quarter it again?
cnk
Hi cnk I would use half the quantity of dried yeast to fresh yeast
Example 60 grams of fresh yeast equals 30 grams of dried yeast.
Lee
A third should be fine.
Geoff