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Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:16 am
by Represto
I'm looking to buy an economic pump to connect to 2" ferrules. Also, a good source for hoses. I've found some from brew supply shops but they're commercial grade ($$$) instead of hobby grade ($). Any suggestions?
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:14 am
by sambedded
Max liquid temp? required GPM? Height?
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:34 am
by Represto
For draining the pot. I don't mind waiting for it to chill a bit but it's likely to be hot backset to clear out. Height would be about 4" or so with a total length of about 15-20". It would be moving 100L at a time. Self priming would be best.
Perhaps this guy would work:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/12V-70W ... 29100.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:43 am
by still_stirrin
This one will do what you want it to do.
https://www.homebrewing.org/Chugger-Pum ... gI6uvD_BwE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Not free...but within a brewer’s budget. I have a couple on my brewing system....they work great and can tolerate temperatures up to boiling.
ss
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:32 am
by sambedded
Represto wrote:For draining the pot. I don't mind waiting for it to chill a bit but it's likely to be hot backset to clear out. Height would be about 4" or so with a total length of about 15-20". It would be moving 100L at a time. Self priming would be best.
I'm using pump similar to this one -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-24V-Ceramic ... 2711025395" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
I like it good. May be little bit too slow for your application. It will require 7-10 minutes to drain your pot. However since it hot water resistant you can start draining immediately after run. Not self priming, but if put it directly to tr-clamp - 1/2 thread fitting self priming is not required.
As I know diaphragm pump doesn't work good if you have some particles in a liquid.
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:08 pm
by Represto
This chugger looks great but the cost isn't in the cards right now. That's more of a save up for it item.
I'll give that cheaper DC pump a try. What do you use as a power supply?
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:11 pm
by Oldvine Zin
Represto wrote:
I'll give that cheaper DC pump a try. What do you use as a power supply?
My question Is what size are the threaded inlet and outlet. Most of the dimensions on pump size are metric, but they only ship to one of a couple country's that are still in the dark ages and insist on imperial rather than metric. That said hope that you can find the fittings for this pump that work for you.
OVZ
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:50 am
by sambedded
Represto wrote:
I'll give that cheaper DC pump a try. What do you use as a power supply?
I'm using power supply from an old laptop. Like this one -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-VOLT-POWER- ... 3993548094" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:52 am
by sambedded
Oldvine Zin wrote:
My question Is what size are the threaded inlet and outlet.
From the pimp description - "1/2" male thead. Fit both 1/2" NPT and BSP female thread"
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:53 am
by The Baker
I have heard of pimps with a bigger one than that.
Geoff
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:31 am
by NineInchNails
Represto wrote:I'm looking to buy an economic pump to connect to 2" ferrules. Also, a good source for hoses. I've found some from brew supply shops but they're commercial grade ($$$) instead of hobby grade ($). Any suggestions?
Is your fill/drain on the top or near the bottom of your boiler?
If it's on the top then you may not need it to "connect" to the opening in order to fill the boiler unless that's what you really want to do. If it's on the top of the boiler then you would need to have a drop tube/hose to go down into the bottom of the boiler to drain the boiler using a pump.
If the fill/drain port is on/near the bottom of the boiler then you would want a ball valve otherwise it would be pretty messy without one. Do you already have a ball valve? Is it a fitted with a Tri-Clamp connection?
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:31 pm
by Yummyrum
I got one of these . Not cheap .... but I have spent so much on cheap products that prematurely fail , my attitude has changed .
https://www.ebay.com.au/i/382286118182? ... 06fff8ca4a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:17 pm
by Represto
https://imgur.com/a/zdnWdae" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
It has a ball valve on the bottom as well as a fill port on the top. I don't really need to triclamp it for the fill, just dropping the end of the hose through the fill port would be fine. It would definitely need to triclamp on the drain though.
Ya, I hear you on the buy once advice. I think I'm going to save up for the Chugger or something similar. Thanks for the help, gents.
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:54 pm
by OtisT
Will that chugger move most of an on-the-grain ferment, grains and all? I assume not, but am hopeful.
Re: Fill/drain pump with 2" Ferrule
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:27 am
by NineInchNails
A self-priming pump that puts out a good deal of flow would probably be relatively expensive. Usually a 'air driven diaphragm pump' fits this description, maybe around $200 or so online. A magnetic drive pump like the Chugger Pump, or other brands, would work fine, but will not be self-priming. The flow rate is the main concern. If you primarily use the pump to fill, you could use most any magnetic drive pump, but needs primed. The Chugger is designed for pumping boiling water (rated 250F way above boiling). They sell Chugger Pumps with a plastic head for $104.99
You could use the same pump for draining, but you could more easily just connect a hose to the valve, gravity drain it out a door, through a wall or down a floor drain. If you do use a magnetic drive pump for draining, you could still use most any magnetic drive pump, even one not rated for extremely high temp, because you could always drop a garden hose in the fill port to dilute and cool down the contents of the boiler. This is not a big deal considering you'll likely hose out the boiler anyway.
Most any hose can be used for draining. Larger diameter is faster.
For filling you could use a clear, vinyl, braided hose if you want as it is NSF Certified for beverages and food. The size most appropriate would be dependent on the size of the pump's output.