Hiya
Can someone tell me exactly what backset is? Am I right in thinking that this is the lower end of the distillation run i.e about 20%abv?
I want to try Odin's cornflakes whisky, but want to make sure I am going to do it right.
Thank you.
Backset - what exactly is it?
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Re: Backset - what exactly is it?
Simply put, Backset is what remains in the boiler after a stripping run. If you are making rum, the backset it is called Dunder.
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Re: Backset - what exactly is it?
Backset is the liquid left over in the boiler pot after a distillation. For rum, it's called "dunder."
Backset is used to make a "sour."
For a real life application, check out UJSSM.
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Backset is used to make a "sour."
For a real life application, check out UJSSM.
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Re: Backset - what exactly is it?
Thank you Otis and fizzix. That makes it really clear now, but leads me to another question. If I save the backset from this run and then use it in the next fermentation, can I mix (blend?) the two whiskies or should I keep them separate?
Re: Backset - what exactly is it?
You can mix/blend any results so long as you enjoy it
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Re: Backset - what exactly is it?
+1 to the comment “if you like it, it’s good.”
That said, my personal preference is to use whiskey backset with a whiskey ferment, and rum dunder with a rum ferment, and rarely do I cross the two. Also, I will often use backset from one whiskey recipe with a different whiskey recipe ferment, though I may not mix the two recipies if the backset came from a funky recipe (high ester, peated, etc) and the new whiskey is something subtle.
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That said, my personal preference is to use whiskey backset with a whiskey ferment, and rum dunder with a rum ferment, and rarely do I cross the two. Also, I will often use backset from one whiskey recipe with a different whiskey recipe ferment, though I may not mix the two recipies if the backset came from a funky recipe (high ester, peated, etc) and the new whiskey is something subtle.
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Re: Backset - what exactly is it?
All of these are similar. Initially used to reduce pH for mashing/fermentation. The secondary effect on flavor was a bonus.
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Re: Backset - what exactly is it?
You may also see backset referred to as 'setback' (sic), 'backins', and 'hotslops'.
Benefits of using backset is the ease of dissolving sugar, to create consistency taste-wise in successive batches, and to naturally lower pH into a more yeast-friendly range. Odin says backset is a source of valuable nutrients for the next ferment.
When using gluco for conversion in my home-malted wheat bourbons, I add a gallon (or so) of cold backset from the fridge to help drop my corn temp for my smaller grains and adjust the pH into ideal range for SEB-amyl. Some say to use 25% backset in their mashes, while others (me included) use way less (10-15%). This is because I have noticed that after 3 or 4 successive batches the backset pH gradually drops lower and lower, requiring I use less of it to sour the next batch.
Benefits of using backset is the ease of dissolving sugar, to create consistency taste-wise in successive batches, and to naturally lower pH into a more yeast-friendly range. Odin says backset is a source of valuable nutrients for the next ferment.
When using gluco for conversion in my home-malted wheat bourbons, I add a gallon (or so) of cold backset from the fridge to help drop my corn temp for my smaller grains and adjust the pH into ideal range for SEB-amyl. Some say to use 25% backset in their mashes, while others (me included) use way less (10-15%). This is because I have noticed that after 3 or 4 successive batches the backset pH gradually drops lower and lower, requiring I use less of it to sour the next batch.
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