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Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:27 pm
by armstrong
What is the best type of container to use for fermentation other than ss. Could i use a 45 gallon drum that was used for honey since it is coated with a food grade paint. I have read that even food grade plastic barrels are not good because the fermentation process can leach out chemicals ,is this true? Thank you in advance.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:53 pm
by Dnderhead
food grade plastic is ok for the fermentation just not for high proof alcohol

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:53 pm
by Lil John SVT
Is a sugar wash considered a strong acohol?

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:03 pm
by eternalfrost
Lil John SVT wrote:Is a sugar wash considered a strong acohol?
not untill its distilled...

food grade plastics are the hobbiest standard. every DIY beer or wine shop in the country carries 5 gallon HPDE plastic buckets for fermenting.

stainless steel or glass will also work but can be unrealistic for large batches like 40+ gallons your talking about

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:06 pm
by eternalfrost
Lil John SVT wrote:Is a sugar wash considered a strong acohol?
not untill its distilled...

food grade plastics are the hobbiest standard. every DIY beer or wine shop in the country carries 5 gallon HPDE plastic buckets for fermenting.

stainless steel or glass will also work but can be unrealistic for large batches like 40+ gallons your talking about

personally ive used the 'ale pails' as the brew shops call them, basically any 5 gallon food grade plastic bucket. 15.5 gallon SS beer kegs to do fermenting in. ive just upgraded to a larger still so need a bigger fermenter. im looking to get a 55 gallon food grade plastic barrel. you can order them new online or cheap on ebay.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:43 pm
by Barney Fife
Armstrong, is the interior, or exterior, of the barrel painted? I can't think of any reason why the inside would have bee painted if it's a food grade plastic. Where do you find these?

I wouldn't be afraid to use a food grade plastic barrel, but not if it's been painted. A paint, even a food grade one, that isn't meant to be in long term contact with alcohol, can be softened and returned to its basic chemical makeup. More true of "food" grade water based paints, I'm afraid. A 10% mash, where the stir spoon has nicked the paint a few times, can easily become a problem.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:04 pm
by Dnderhead
I thank he is talking about plastic coated (inside ) metal barrel

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:09 pm
by eternalfrost
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these are what i plan to be getting. they are originally for shipping bulk syrups and things to food and drug companys. you can get ones where the entire top is removable for cleaning. 55 gallons food grade 100% HPDE plastic

you can get them new from here http://www.bayteccontainers.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow or off ebay for 20-50 dollars. they are also popular for rain catching resiviours for gardens etc

by the way...i too would stay away from anything painted whatsoever

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:30 pm
by armstrong
The 45 gallon drums that i was refering to are steel barrels with a food grade coating or paint on the inside.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:56 pm
by Hawke
Your barrel would be fine as long as the coating doesn't get damaged. Once there is steel exposed, it won't take long for it to degrade.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:30 pm
by HookLine
They say they've been reading, but still they buy hotplates.
Just noticed your signature.

He he he.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:09 am
by punkin
armstrong wrote:The 45 gallon drums that i was refering to are steel barrels with a food grade coating or paint on the inside.

I've got two of em, thought they'd be the go, but after a couple of ferments they start to rust. I use em for storing grains now and have gone to the plastic olive drums for fermenters. They'll work, but only for a little while and the wash eats em, mine only had peach/sugar wash in em a couple times...

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It's the 55 gal Ginger drums in the background. Coated with a red, food grade epoxy or paint.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:13 pm
by Spriit Tisler
Are HDPE plastic rainwater barrels a no-go for fermentation? I have one unused laying around and I was wondering if I could put it in better use.

Re: Fermentation container

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:41 pm
by pythonshine
If it is clean, pure HDPE and has no plain steel, coatings/paint...sure.