first ferment, a sugar wash, Red Star Premier Cuvee?
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:57 pm
I'm following the McCone protocol that's in Tony's site. I've kept the Ph between 3.4-4.0 aerated heavily for 1st 2 days, and added sugar after it gets to about 4 brix until it's back at 10 brix (started at about 20-21 brix) I used Red Star's Premier Cuvee, which I understand is a copy of Ec 1118, sac. bayanus Formerly known as Prise de Mousse. I added 10 gm. Fermaid, and I started a starter with the 10 gm. Premier Cuvee, added 1-1/3 gm. DAP (with 2 more additions of 1-1/3 gm. DAP over the 1st 4 days), I have 3-5 gallon fermentation buckets that I started a different times. The first batch is at SG of 1014 now. I've added a total 5.8 kg. to a total of 4.5 gallons, and Tony's site calculator (for yield) says it's got a potential alcohol of 19%. It's been 3 weeks since I started it, with a total of 3 additions of sugar. It hasn't changed for the last 5 days basically, although I can see a little activity (some bubbles).
Batch #2 has had the same treatment (except I used about 1/2 gallon of fermenting batch #1 instead of starting from scratch). I've made 2 additions of sugar for a total of 5.3 kg and I'm seeing a potential of between 17.3 and 17.4% if it completes to dryness). It hasn't changed in 3 days, although I can see it's bubbling slightly more than batch #1.
Batch #3 has had the least amount of sugar added, total of one addition of sugar for 4.6 kg with potential alcohol of between 13-14% if it completes to dryness. It's actually bubbling steadily and the sg has gone down daily, it's now at 1012 balling 3.
I'm just wondering if my first two batches are 'stuck' and if I should add more sugar to my 3rd batch seeing how the first two batches aren't doing anything now (anything much that is)
I kept a pretty good eye on the ph and tempature, although it did go to ph 2.6 (batch #2) for a short period, but I added potassium carbonate to get it back up to the 3.4-4.0 range.
Is this Premier Cuvee basically the same as Lavlin ec-1118? Is there anything that anybody is seeing that I'm doing wrong? I expected to get around 18% alcohol, and to get it in a shorter amount of time than it's taken.
Batch #2 has had the same treatment (except I used about 1/2 gallon of fermenting batch #1 instead of starting from scratch). I've made 2 additions of sugar for a total of 5.3 kg and I'm seeing a potential of between 17.3 and 17.4% if it completes to dryness). It hasn't changed in 3 days, although I can see it's bubbling slightly more than batch #1.
Batch #3 has had the least amount of sugar added, total of one addition of sugar for 4.6 kg with potential alcohol of between 13-14% if it completes to dryness. It's actually bubbling steadily and the sg has gone down daily, it's now at 1012 balling 3.
I'm just wondering if my first two batches are 'stuck' and if I should add more sugar to my 3rd batch seeing how the first two batches aren't doing anything now (anything much that is)
I kept a pretty good eye on the ph and tempature, although it did go to ph 2.6 (batch #2) for a short period, but I added potassium carbonate to get it back up to the 3.4-4.0 range.
Is this Premier Cuvee basically the same as Lavlin ec-1118? Is there anything that anybody is seeing that I'm doing wrong? I expected to get around 18% alcohol, and to get it in a shorter amount of time than it's taken.